[Owasp-board] Fwd: Reinstate my OWASP membership

Josh Sokol josh.sokol at owasp.org
Thu Jan 9 18:16:38 UTC 2014

While I agree that it is a rather sensitive matter, it seems that much of
what we would be discussing took place over public mailing lists so most of
this is already out in the open.  And as long as Christian does not object
to it, I think we need to be as transparent throughout this process as
possible and not hide in the shadows of sensitivity.  Not following the "O"
in "OWASP" has bit us many times in the past and in a situation like this
where claims have been made around character assassination, I feel quite
strongly that all of these discussions should take place on record.

Also, our intent here should not be to judge Christian for past
transgressions for which he has already served a considerable amount of
time.  That chapter needs to be laid to rest.  His membership was revoked
on 1/9/2012 and we need to evaluate his conduct since that time and his
desire and ability to positively participate in the OWASP community once

Provided that the Board approves my proposal for a temporary committee on
this matter, I will solicit other members of our leadership to participate
as well.  These would be individuals agreed upon as "unbiased" by both
Christian and the Board.  Christian was a well-respected and contributing
member of our community before this occurred and we should at least be
ensuring that his concerns are being heard.


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Tobias <tobias.gondrom at owasp.org> wrote:

>  Josh and board colleagues,
> I am happy to support you on this. Though I would like for you to take the
> lead on this with me assisting, as I have only so many cycles and already
> quite a bit on my plate at this moment.
> One note: this is a sensitive matter and touches personal information of
> individuals. Out of respect for all people involved, we should not discuss
> personal details on a public mailing-list (aka the board mailing-list).
> Tobias
> On 09/01/14 17:26, Josh Sokol wrote:
>  Apparenlty there's something weird going on with the mailing list so I'm
> adding Fabio as well.  He was left off of Christian's initial e-mail.  Not
> sure if he's ever had any contact with this situation or if he'd want to
> participate, but he may be a good person on the proposed committee as well.
>  ~josh
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>
> Date: Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 11:16 AM
> Subject: Re: Reinstate my OWASP membership
> To: Christian Heinrich <christian.heinrich at cmlh.id.au>
> Cc: Sarah Baso <sarah.baso at owasp.org>, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org>,
> OWASP Foundation Board List <owasp-board at lists.owasp.org>, Kate Hartmann <
> kate.hartmann at owasp.org>, Michael Coates <michael.coates at owasp.org>, Tom
> Brennan <tomb at owasp.org>, Eoin Keary <eoin.keary at owasp.org>, Tobias
> Gondrom <tobias.gondrom at owasp.org>
>  Board,
>  I realize that this is a sensitive topic and one that has caused much
> controversy in the past.  Since much has changed since then, I would very
> much like to consider Christian's request to once again participate in the
> OWASP community.  That said, it seems that a number of Board members may
> have biases here that would likely affect their voting on this matter.  As
> such, I would like to propose a temporary committee lead by myself and
> Tobias based on our lack of biases on this matter with participation from
> Sarah, as Executive Director, to evaluate Christian's request.  The goal of
> this would not be to pass judgement on any past transgressions for which he
> has already served his time, but rather, to evaluate any actions after the
> vote of revocation and work with Christian to determine whether he feels
> that he is willing and able to move on from this and be productive within
> the OWASP Foundation.  I realize that this is a rather unusual request, but
> given the passions that have flared from both sides, this seems like the
> best path toward resolution.  Thank you for your consideration.
>  ~josh
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 9:53 PM, Christian Heinrich <
> christian.heinrich at cmlh.id.au> wrote:
>> Sarah,
>> It is 9 January 2014 which is two years to the day
>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/January_9,_2012 which I believe has
>> been proven beyond a reasonable doubt actioned without due process.
>> Can you please reinstate my @owasp.org e-mail address and associated
>> Honorary Membership today?
>> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Christian Heinrich
>> <christian.heinrich at cmlh.id.au> wrote:
>> > Sarah,
>> >
>> > On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Sarah Baso <sarah.baso at owasp.org>
>> wrote:
>> >> I have no further comments or response on this matter.
>> >
>> > The statement above indicates that the termination action voted on by
>> > the OWASP Board was retrospectively applied due to their bias and
>> > without due process.
>> >
>> > Nevertheless, with two years from
>> > https://www.owasp.org/index.php/January_9,_2012 approaching in
>> > approximately one month can you please instruct the appropriate
>> > contact(s) within the OWASP Foundation to have my @owasp.org e-mail
>> > address and associated Honorary Membership fully restored by 9 January
>> > 2014 please?
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Christian Heinrich
>> http://cmlh.id.au/contact
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