[Owasp-board] Membership Policy and "Open"

Josh Sokol josh.sokol at owasp.org
Thu Feb 20 16:35:44 UTC 2014

I don't think we're referring to space restrictions at all.  See the e-mail
that I just sent to the leaders list for additional context here.


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Michael Coates
<michael.coates at owasp.org>wrote:

> If the only scenario we are trying to accommodate here is the fact that
> there is limited space in a physical building, then I dont think we need to
> make any changes to the mission statement.
> Free and open does not mean we can somehow accommodate 1000 people in a
> small space or else we violate our mission. It means we don't have
> artificial requirements on who can and can't attend. Am I missing something
> to your concerns jim?
> On Feb 20, 2014 7:48 AM, "Josh Sokol" <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>> In addition, the Chapter Leader Handbook (
>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Chapter_Handbook/Chapter_7:_Organizing_Chapter_Meetings#Meeting_Venue)
>> says that "As long as the meeting is free and open and doesn't violate
>> other OWASP principals, a vendor's office space may be a great location to
>> hold a meeting."  I'm willing to be there is other material in there as
>> well that indicates that meetings should be open to all.
>> I'm not sure how I feel about this btw.  I completely understand the
>> context, but when your entire organization is founded on and preaches the
>> concept of being free and open to everyone, changing that is a pretty
>> significant change in direction, no matter what the catalyst is.
>> ~josh
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> Board,
>>> I would like to revisit our mission statement and membership policy at
>>> the next board meeting if not sooner.
>>> Our mission statement says "everyone is free to participate in OWASP" (
>>> http://www.owasp.org) and the Membership Revocation Policy says "A
>>> revoked member IS permitted to attend OWASP meetings as they are open and
>>> free by design." (https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Membership_Revocation)
>>> I move that we change this. There are situations when OWASP meetings are
>>> held at private companies with a limit to how many people can attend, and
>>> certain folks wishing to attend may not be allowed to due to that
>>> constraint. I would also like to consider changing the membership
>>> revocation policy.
>>> This is an incredibly difficult issue messing with the core of OWASP. I
>>> I could be completely wrong here and ask for your help in this matter.
>>> Thank you,
>>> Jim Manico
>>> OWASP 2x4 Member
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