[Owasp-board] Proposal for new global OWASP mailing-list "owasp-all"

Tobias tobias.gondrom at owasp.org
Fri Feb 14 21:07:39 UTC 2014

Opt-in works for me as well, too.
- Tobias

On 14/02/14 20:06, Josh Sokol wrote:
> I support the idea of creating an open list for everyone to use but
> feel that it should be opt-in rather than opt-out.  I'm fine if that
> means offering a check box at the time of membership purchase and
> renewal.
> On Feb 14, 2014 2:00 PM, "Tobias" <tobias.gondrom at owasp.org
> <mailto:tobias.gondrom at owasp.org>> wrote:
>     Hello,
>     == Proposal ==
>     (I post this first to the OWASP board list for initial feedback
>     and if the idea catches some general support, we can then either
>     just create the list and see how things go or propose a discussion
>     of this on the leaders-list.)
>     *I propose to create a new mailing-list "owasp-all". *
>     *Reasoning:* to open global OWASP discussions to the global
>     community, beyond the leaders-list.
>     Over the last months and years, I noticed that we had a number of
>     discussions on the "leaders-list" that should in fact have been
>     open to many more of our members and active contributor as well.
>     Like proposing new ideas for projects and initiatives or e.g. the
>     discussion about RSA and the OWASP security statement.
>     Note: The leaders-list will remain very important and essential
>     for all project and chapter leadership questions.
>     I just like to enable normal OWASP members and contributors to
>     exchange ideas and cooperate across chapter boundaries as well.
>     For example it would be nice if OWASP members could coordinate
>     worldwide across chapters to start projects and initiatives or
>     spontaneously join together for a new OWASP initiative. Some of
>     these discussions currently happen informally somewhere in the
>     hallway of a conference, or are done on the leaders list and then
>     sometimes communicated into the local chapters - or not. Which
>     IMHO leaves out the many OWASP members and active contributors,
>     who might be interested in joining interesting new projects or
>     starting new initiatives or voicing their opinion about what OWASP
>     should do in global questions, but who can not participate in the
>     discussion directly because they are not chapter leaders or
>     project leaders.
>     So my proposal is to create a new mailing-list:
>     *Name: "**owasp-all"*
>     (or alternative name ideas: "owasp-owasp", "owasp-world", ...)
>     *Scope: **
>     *topics in-scope of this mailing-list are new project and
>     initiative ideas that are looking for other fellow contributors
>     and volunteers and news that are relevant and valuable for the
>     global OWASP community. Explicitly out of scope is everything that
>     can be discussed in a specific project or chapter or group of
>     chapters, and topics that are already covered by the scope of any
>     other mailing-list like the governance and project lists.
>     And as this is a global mailing-list with potentially a lot of
>     subscribers, we ask members to be very cautious and conservative
>     in posting there and follow the scope definition very carefully.
>     Furthermore, please refrain from cross-posting to this
>     mailing-list. And be considerate whether you really need to reply
>     to the whole list of thousands of people if e.g. you just want to
>     sign up to a new initiative. A direct reply to the person who sent
>     the initial message can spare others a lot of email traffic.
>     *Target group: **
>     *all OWASP leaders, active contributors and those who are
>     interested in joining a project or initiative and don't know yet
>     which one, OWASP members, and anyone interested in the global
>     OWASP community.
>     *Sign-up: **
>     *The list is free for anyone to subscribe / unsubscribe.
>     At the start, I suggest that the list should be pre-filled with
>     all members of the leaders-list and all OWASP members (as per the
>     membership list) with the option to unsubscribe like from any
>     other free mailing-list.
>     Going forward I propose to add a flag at the membership renewal
>     form (i.e. when you pay your membership fee) that you want to be
>     on the global "OWASP-all" mailing-list (with the default setting
>     to be "yes").
>     And I would appreciate if we could send an email to all chapter
>     mailing-lists to inform people there about this new global OWASP
>     community mailing-list which is open to everyone.
>     Please note that I don't know whether we would need a board vote
>     for this mailing-list to be created or could just do it.
>     So I err on the side of caution and ask for feedback and possibly
>     a board vote for approval.
>     All the best,
>     Tobias
>     Tobias Gondrom
>     OWASP Global Board Member
>     OWASP CISO Survey Project Lead
>     email: tobias.gondrom at owasp.org <mailto:tobias.gondrom at owasp.org>
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