[Owasp-board] Proposal for new global OWASP mailing-list "owasp-all"

Josh Sokol josh.sokol at owasp.org
Fri Feb 14 20:06:39 UTC 2014

I support the idea of creating an open list for everyone to use but feel
that it should be opt-in rather than opt-out.  I'm fine if that means
offering a check box at the time of membership purchase and renewal.
On Feb 14, 2014 2:00 PM, "Tobias" <tobias.gondrom at owasp.org> wrote:

>  Hello,
> == Proposal ==
> (I post this first to the OWASP board list for initial feedback and if the
> idea catches some general support, we can then either just create the
> list and see how things go or propose a discussion of this on the
> leaders-list.)
> *I propose to create a new mailing-list "owasp-all". *
> *Reasoning:* to open global OWASP discussions to the global community,
> beyond the leaders-list.
> Over the last months and years, I noticed that we had a number of
> discussions on the "leaders-list" that should in fact have been open to
> many more of our members and active contributor as well. Like proposing new
> ideas for projects and initiatives or e.g. the discussion about RSA and the
> OWASP security statement.
> Note: The leaders-list will remain very important and essential for all
> project and chapter leadership questions.
> I just like to enable normal OWASP members and contributors to exchange
> ideas and cooperate across chapter boundaries as well. For example it would
> be nice if OWASP members could coordinate worldwide across chapters to
> start projects and initiatives or spontaneously join together for a new
> OWASP initiative. Some of these discussions currently happen informally
> somewhere in the hallway of a conference, or are done on the leaders list
> and then sometimes communicated into the local chapters - or not. Which
> IMHO leaves out the many OWASP members and active contributors, who might
> be interested in joining interesting new projects or starting new
> initiatives or voicing their opinion about what OWASP should do in global
> questions, but who can not participate in the discussion directly because
> they are not chapter leaders or project leaders.
> So my proposal is to create a new mailing-list:
> *Name: "**owasp-all"*
> (or alternative name ideas: "owasp-owasp", "owasp-world", ...)
> *Scope: *
> topics in-scope of this mailing-list are new project and initiative ideas
> that are looking for other fellow contributors and volunteers and news that
> are relevant and valuable for the global OWASP community. Explicitly out of
> scope is everything that can be discussed in a specific project or chapter
> or group of chapters, and topics that are already covered by the scope of
> any other mailing-list like the governance and project lists.
> And as this is a global mailing-list with potentially a lot of
> subscribers, we ask members to be very cautious and conservative in posting
> there and follow the scope definition very carefully. Furthermore, please
> refrain from cross-posting to this mailing-list. And be considerate
> whether you really need to reply to the whole list of thousands of people
> if e.g. you just want to sign up to a new initiative. A direct reply to the
> person who sent the initial message can spare others a lot of email
> traffic.
> *Target group: *
> all OWASP leaders, active contributors and those who are interested in
> joining a project or initiative and don't know yet which one, OWASP
> members, and anyone interested in the global OWASP community.
> *Sign-up: *
> The list is free for anyone to subscribe / unsubscribe.
> At the start, I suggest that the list should be pre-filled with all
> members of the leaders-list and all OWASP members (as per the membership
> list) with the option to unsubscribe like from any other free mailing-list.
> Going forward I propose to add a flag at the membership renewal form (i.e.
> when you pay your membership fee) that you want to be on the global
> "OWASP-all" mailing-list (with the default setting to be "yes").
> And I would appreciate if we could send an email to all chapter
> mailing-lists to inform people there about this new global OWASP community
> mailing-list which is open to everyone.
> Please note that I don't know whether we would need a board vote for this
> mailing-list to be created or could just do it.
> So I err on the side of caution and ask for feedback and possibly a board
> vote for approval.
> All the best,
> Tobias
> Tobias Gondrom
> OWASP Global Board Member
> OWASP CISO Survey Project Lead
> email: tobias.gondrom at owasp.org
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