[Owasp-board] [Owasp-leaders] OWASP.next
michael.coates at owasp.org
Thu Apr 10 21:54:35 UTC 2014
Thanks for your comments on this. This is a critical issue and very
important to me. I am approaching this on multiple fronts. I also want the
community to feel empowered to always reinforce our ethics and expectations
of behavior - no one is above them.
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Dennis Groves <dennis.groves at owasp.org>wrote:
> I applaud you Michael for taking the reigns of leadership and setting both
> a vision and a positive example for OWASP. What a great post! You have
> really captured the spirit of OWASP and I hope you succeed in keeping it
> alive. Like you, I stand behind both the awesome staff and community of
> However, I have great concerns about the future of OWASP, because the
> board serves as an example for the community. As you have indicated you
> cannot do this alone, we all have to pitch in. Not everybody on the board
> is a rotten apple, most of you are awesome. Unfortunately it only takes one
> rotten apple to spoil the whole barrel.
> Some examples I have observed of rotten leadership:
> - Publicly undermining OWASP employees by an OWASP Board member.
> - Publicly undermining OWASP volunteers by an OWASP Board member.
> - Privately undermining OWASP leaders by an OWASP Board member.
> - Privately undermining OWASP employees by an OWASP Board member.
> - Publicly undermining OWASP projects by an OWASP Board member.
> - Privately undermining OWASP projects by an OWASP Board member.
> - OWASP Board members have caused OWASP to lose money from conference
> - OWASP Board members have caused OWASP to lose corporate
> - OWASP Board members have caused OWASP to lose projects.
> - OWASP Board members have harassed OWASP employees privately.
> - OWASP Board members have abused OWASP employees publicly.
> All of these things have gone on habitually. Most of the time they are
> thinly veiled under the guise of 'ethics' and yet all of these behaviors
> are in direct conflict with the duty of loyalty to the OWASP foundation. *Additionally,
> it sets up an unprofessional example of 'standard of behavior' for the
> community to follow, and this is exactly what is happening.*
> I regularly hear from both sponsors and leaders that no longer want to
> participate in OWASP anymore due to the examples I have cited above. I
> spend my OWASP donation hours managing fires like this, when I could be
> building and contributing to the community with my precious little free
> It has come to a point that I may no longer recommend that the public join
> or support OWASP because of the unprofessional behavior emanating from the
> board. *And I feel it is a very sad day when I can not recommend OWASP,
> something I genuinely want to be proud to be a part of, to people I love
> and respect.*
> Dennis Groves <http://about.me/dennis.groves>, MSc
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