[Owasp-board] Ning

Jim Manico jim.manico at owasp.org
Tue Apr 8 02:00:10 UTC 2014


Oooooh, what a great idea, Tom. This is pretty slick. WAY better than 
depending on Google authentication.

.. and it's very actively being worked on.

https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=camel.git

Very interesting, I likey.

- Jim


On 4/7/14, 6:56 PM, Tom Brennan - proactiveRISK wrote:
> Send got pressed before I finished... Point was Apache is using both 
> mailing lists and forums we have talked about it.. It is a option to 
> sync both and run our own list/forum synced
>
> Tom Brennan
> 9732020122
>
> On Apr 7, 2014, at 9:52 PM, Tom Brennan - proactiveRISK 
> <tomb at proactiverisk.com <mailto:tomb at proactiverisk.com>> wrote:
>
>> *cough*
>>
>> http://camel.apache.org/discussion-forums.html
>>
>> Can't send to the Owasp list from the @domain so direct cc
>>
>> Tom Brennan
>> 9732020122
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2014, at 9:45 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org 
>> <mailto:jim.manico at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>
>>> Michael,
>>>
>>> I've kept an eye on the OWASP LinkedIn groups and I find the 
>>> conversations there to often be of low quality. It's basically "one 
>>> giant email list".
>>>
>>> LinkedIn and Twitter are good places to broadcast news, but I do not 
>>> see them as the best social platforms. Facebook is decent, but 
>>> again, conversation quality is often low. Keep in mind that a 
>>> significant percentage of our security-minded community is often 
>>> adverse to deep use of social media.
>>>
>>> Email lists are very low bar to entry and will always be important. 
>>> I personally think Google Groups is the best threaded-conversation 
>>> tool, but I realize China blocking Google is a problem.
>>>
>>> My 2 cents,
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/7/14, 3:22 PM, Michael Coates wrote:
>>>> Thanks for the info. Where would someone go to join the main 
>>>> conversations? I poked around a bit and found this page. Is this 
>>>> the main spot?
>>>>
>>>> http://myowasp.ning.com/forum/categories/general-1/listForCategory
>>>> It seems the our leaders list may be generating more discussions at 
>>>> the moment.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In terms of social media platforms our most joined platform is 
>>>> linkedin - 17k group members
>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/groups/Global-OWASP-Foundation-36874?trk=my_groups-b-grp-v
>>>> Sure, it doesn't have any of the capabilities of ning - but if 
>>>> we're looking to reach an audience and have a threaded 
>>>> conversation, then that is the place to go.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Michael Coates
>>>> @_mwc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org 
>>>> <mailto:josh.sokol at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Ning started out as a tool that was being used solely by the
>>>>     OWASP Austin Chapter. As we had (and continue to have) much
>>>>     success with it as a coordination platform, I asked the Board
>>>>     to sponsor an experiment to roll it out to the greater
>>>>     organization.  We've been on the Ning platform for almost 3
>>>>     years now and have:
>>>>
>>>>       * 307 members signed up to use it
>>>>       * 17 public groups representing multiple chapters, projects,
>>>>         conferences, and more general appsec topics
>>>>       * 31 photos uploaded by participants
>>>>       * 10 videos uploaded by participants representing everything
>>>>         from membership plugs to conference recordings to OWASP tools
>>>>       * 9 blog posts (definitely smaller than I'd like to see)
>>>>       * Forum posts split into 9 different topical categories
>>>>
>>>>     We haven't been keeping detailed stats beyond that, but it does
>>>>     give us the ability to use Google Analytics if we so chose.
>>>>     Authentication can use Google, Facebook, Twitter, and other
>>>>     methods as well.  I can export a list of current users if
>>>>     you're interested in further dissecting the "who" is using it
>>>>     currently.  It has role-based access controls so, as an
>>>>     example, I can be site admin, but allow others to moderate
>>>>     content, etc.
>>>>
>>>>       * Current Ning 2.0 Platform: http://my.owasp.org
>>>>       * New Ning 3.0 Platform (testing): http://myowasp2.ning.com
>>>>
>>>>     My general feeling about it is that it's a great platform for
>>>>     social media presence as it integrates all of the other things
>>>>     people are doing (Twitter, Blogs, Messaging, Forums) into a
>>>>     single system.  It hasn't been extremely well utilized beyond a
>>>>     few niche groups to date, but it also hasn't been widely
>>>>     publicized either beyond an e-mail or two from me early on in
>>>>     2011.  There are currently 18 administrators on the system
>>>>     including myself, Sarah, Michael, and Tom.  I also just found
>>>>     Samantha in the system as well (for some reason my search
>>>>     didn't turn her up before).
>>>>
>>>>     I hope that answers your questions.
>>>>
>>>>     ~josh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Michael Coates
>>>>     <michael.coates at owasp.org <mailto:michael.coates at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         Josh & Board,
>>>>
>>>>         We're talking a lot about ning. Since it's come up a few
>>>>         times I have some questions.
>>>>
>>>>         How much is it being used? Do we have numbers on how many
>>>>         owasp.org <http://owasp.org> people have accounts? How many
>>>>         edits/posts/updates per month?
>>>>
>>>>         Who is admin - is this ops team owned or an experimental
>>>>         community project?
>>>>
>>>>         Aside from the quantitative questions above - what's the
>>>>         general feeling about it. Are people using it for some
>>>>         particular items instead of others? What are it's strengths
>>>>         and weaknesses?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>         --
>>>>         Michael Coates
>>>>         @_mwc
>>>>
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