[Owasp-board] Ning

Jim Manico jim.manico at owasp.org
Tue Apr 8 01:45:21 UTC 2014


I've kept an eye on the OWASP LinkedIn groups and I find the 
conversations there to often be of low quality. It's basically "one 
giant email list".

LinkedIn and Twitter are good places to broadcast news, but I do not see 
them as the best social platforms. Facebook is decent, but again, 
conversation quality is often low. Keep in mind that a significant 
percentage of our security-minded community is often adverse to deep use 
of social media.

Email lists are very low bar to entry and will always be important. I 
personally think Google Groups is the best threaded-conversation tool, 
but I realize China blocking Google is a problem.

My 2 cents,

On 4/7/14, 3:22 PM, Michael Coates wrote:
> Thanks for the info. Where would someone go to join the main 
> conversations? I poked around a bit and found this page. Is this the 
> main spot?
> http://myowasp.ning.com/forum/categories/general-1/listForCategory
> It seems the our leaders list may be generating more discussions at 
> the moment.
> In terms of social media platforms our most joined platform is 
> linkedin - 17k group members
> https://www.linkedin.com/groups/Global-OWASP-Foundation-36874?trk=my_groups-b-grp-v
> Sure, it doesn't have any of the capabilities of ning - but if we're 
> looking to reach an audience and have a threaded conversation, then 
> that is the place to go.
> --
> Michael Coates
> @_mwc
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org 
> <mailto:josh.sokol at owasp.org>> wrote:
>     Ning started out as a tool that was being used solely by the OWASP
>     Austin Chapter.  As we had (and continue to have) much success
>     with it as a coordination platform, I asked the Board to sponsor
>     an experiment to roll it out to the greater organization.  We've
>     been on the Ning platform for almost 3 years now and have:
>       * 307 members signed up to use it
>       * 17 public groups representing multiple chapters, projects,
>         conferences, and more general appsec topics
>       * 31 photos uploaded by participants
>       * 10 videos uploaded by participants representing everything
>         from membership plugs to conference recordings to OWASP tools
>       * 9 blog posts (definitely smaller than I'd like to see)
>       * Forum posts split into 9 different topical categories
>     We haven't been keeping detailed stats beyond that, but it does
>     give us the ability to use Google Analytics if we so chose. 
>     Authentication can use Google, Facebook, Twitter, and other
>     methods as well.  I can export a list of current users if you're
>     interested in further dissecting the "who" is using it currently. 
>     It has role-based access controls so, as an example, I can be site
>     admin, but allow others to moderate content, etc.
>       * Current Ning 2.0 Platform: http://my.owasp.org
>       * New Ning 3.0 Platform (testing): http://myowasp2.ning.com
>     My general feeling about it is that it's a great platform for
>     social media presence as it integrates all of the other things
>     people are doing (Twitter, Blogs, Messaging, Forums) into a single
>     system.  It hasn't been extremely well utilized beyond a few niche
>     groups to date, but it also hasn't been widely publicized either
>     beyond an e-mail or two from me early on in 2011.  There are
>     currently 18 administrators on the system including myself, Sarah,
>     Michael, and Tom.  I also just found Samantha in the system as
>     well (for some reason my search didn't turn her up before).
>     I hope that answers your questions.
>     ~josh
>     On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Michael Coates
>     <michael.coates at owasp.org <mailto:michael.coates at owasp.org>> wrote:
>         Josh & Board,
>         We're talking a lot about ning. Since it's come up a few times
>         I have some questions.
>         How much is it being used? Do we have numbers on how many
>         owasp.org <http://owasp.org> people have accounts? How many
>         edits/posts/updates per month?
>         Who is admin - is this ops team owned or an experimental
>         community project?
>         Aside from the quantitative questions above - what's the
>         general feeling about it. Are people using it for some
>         particular items instead of others? What are it's strengths
>         and weaknesses?
>         Thanks!
>         --
>         Michael Coates
>         @_mwc
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