[Owasp-board] Member Nation Portal

Sarah Baso sarah.baso at owasp.org
Mon Apr 7 16:02:46 UTC 2014


I am online reviewing all the questions now and will provide a consolidated
response as soon as I can.  Josh, FWIW, I have not only logged into NING
but made posts to it, so I don't think its fair to say none of the staff
has awareness of it.

Sarah


On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:

> http://myowasp.force.com
>
> Based on your experience with Meetup, Tom, I'd be especially interested in
> what you have to say about it's features vs what Meetup has to offer.
>
> Another thought on this...being that we pride ourselves on being open, why
> is the first thing people see when trying to access our social media
> platform a login page?
>
> ~josh
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> Who is in the Alpha testing group?  Would be great to have a preview ....
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 11:25 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>> > Michael,
>> >
>> > This is why I want to caution the team that it's very likely the the
>> > community will not use the social features of the new portal. I could be
>> > wrong, it's just a polite warning to consider.
>> >
>> > Now, if the SalesForce features are being used for finance management
>> (pay
>> > for events, pay for membership, etc) I'm all for it. We need a more
>> robust
>> > payment system. I just don't think new social features will stick.
>> >
>> > - Jim
>> >
>> >
>> > On 4/6/14, 8:09 PM, Josh Sokol wrote:
>> >
>> > To a large extent I agree with you.  The key difference here is that we
>> are
>> > talking about replacing an existing platform with over 300 participants
>> for
>> > a brand new, sub-par, social media experience.  We've had enough issues
>> > getting members to use social media in general, why would we want to
>> roll
>> > with anuything with such limited functionality and flexibility?
>> >
>> > I have followed up with Sarah and she said she will provide an update
>> > tomorrow.
>> >
>> > On Apr 6, 2014 9:48 PM, "Michael Coates" <michael.coates at owasp.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I wouldn't be concerned. When evaluating many products the evaluation
>> does
>> >> not require a demo for every system. If the motivation was to
>> centralize and
>> >> integrate with sales force then I'd expect that to be a top
>> requirement and
>> >> consideration.
>> >>
>> >> But again, we should let Sarah update us.
>> >>
>> >> On Apr 6, 2014 7:13 PM, "Josh Sokol" <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Considering that none of them have even logged into the current Ning
>> >>> social media platform, I have to assume that their evaluations were
>> based
>> >>> solely on the functionality that they wanted, rather than what would
>> benefit
>> >>> the OWASP community as a whole.
>> >>>
>> >>> ~josh
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Michael Coates <
>> michael.coates at owasp.org>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I know there is a ton of integration into our existing sales force
>> data
>> >>>> and many other benefits when Sarah and team evaluated. I'll wait for
>> Sarah's
>> >>>> update and thoughts.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Apr 6, 2014 4:35 PM, "Josh Sokol" <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Last week I spent some time with Kate going through the
>> functionality
>> >>>>> and features of the Salesforce Communities and I have to say that
>> I'm a bit
>> >>>>> disgruntled.  For two years now we've had the http://my.owasp.orgNing site
>> >>>>> with way more features and over 300 members and now we want to move
>> to this
>> >>>>> Salesforce portal thing?  Maybe if some of the staff took the time
>> to use
>> >>>>> the existing social media platform, then they would realize just
>> how much
>> >>>>> this Salesforce one sucks.  And I'm working on the conversion to
>> Ning 3.0
>> >>>>> right now which adds a ton of additional features as well
>> >>>>> (http://myowasp2.ning.com).  It looks better, works better, and
>> already has
>> >>>>> some level of backing from our membership.  Why would we roll out a
>> lesser
>> >>>>> version of what we already have?  I went into this with the hopes
>> that the
>> >>>>> new platform would blow Ning out of the water and I could get rid
>> of it, but
>> >>>>> I left feeling like we should still maintain the Ning platform
>> because
>> >>>>> Salesforce just doesn't have the features necessary to be usable.
>>  Simple
>> >>>>> things like rich text formatting, user messaging, photo sharing,
>> video
>> >>>>> sharing, etc.  If we had nothing, then it would work, but why
>> anyone would
>> >>>>> prefer Salesforce over Ning is beyond me.  In addition, I'll note
>> that the
>> >>>>> "Logout" link in this Salesforce portal does not exist on every
>> page which
>> >>>>> makes it difficult for users to log out and can become a security
>> issue.
>> >>>>> Needless to say, this is very frustrating.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ~josh
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Sarah/Michael,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The original proposal for the member nation portal discussed that
>> it
>> >>>>>> would manage "event types, memberships, and donations as well as an
>> >>>>>> integrated eCommerce solution". This is awesome. I think will be a
>> great
>> >>>>>> thing for the community and staff.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> https://docs.google.com/a/owasp.org/document/d/1yDTFCdmmZN3t732sqHTOFHMhQrXgUC46YbgDhGROcXM/edit?pli=1
>> >>>>>> Did we also plan to use this for application security/wiki content
>> or
>> >>>>>> for OWASP project management? We never discussed that when we
>> voted on the
>> >>>>>> member nation proposal. I though the portal was mostly going to be
>> for
>> >>>>>> eCommerce streamlining, like the proposal said.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Has the scope grown? Sarah, can you give the board an update on the
>> >>>>>> member nation portal and what it's purpose will be? I see from
>> recent email
>> >>>>>> that we plan to use it for project management? What will that look
>> like?
>> >>>>>> Thanks all, Jim
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>>>> Owasp-board mailing list
>> >>>>>> Owasp-board at lists.owasp.org
>> >>>>>> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-board
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>>> Owasp-board mailing list
>> >>>>> Owasp-board at lists.owasp.org
>> >>>>> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-board
>> >>>>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Owasp-board mailing list
>> > Owasp-board at lists.owasp.org
>> > https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-board
>> >
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Owasp-board mailing list
> Owasp-board at lists.owasp.org
> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-board
>
>


-- 
Executive Director
OWASP Foundation

sarah.baso at owasp.org
+1.312.869.2779
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/attachments/20140407/a1b4c55d/attachment.html>


More information about the Owasp-board mailing list