[Owasp-board] Member Nation Portal

Tom Brennan tomb at owasp.org
Mon Apr 7 13:51:29 UTC 2014

Who is in the Alpha testing group?  Would be great to have a preview ....

On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 11:25 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
> Michael,
> This is why I want to caution the team that it's very likely the the
> community will not use the social features of the new portal. I could be
> wrong, it's just a polite warning to consider.
> Now, if the SalesForce features are being used for finance management (pay
> for events, pay for membership, etc) I'm all for it. We need a more robust
> payment system. I just don't think new social features will stick.
> - Jim
> On 4/6/14, 8:09 PM, Josh Sokol wrote:
> To a large extent I agree with you.  The key difference here is that we are
> talking about replacing an existing platform with over 300 participants for
> a brand new, sub-par, social media experience.  We've had enough issues
> getting members to use social media in general, why would we want to roll
> with anuything with such limited functionality and flexibility?
> I have followed up with Sarah and she said she will provide an update
> tomorrow.
> On Apr 6, 2014 9:48 PM, "Michael Coates" <michael.coates at owasp.org> wrote:
>> I wouldn't be concerned. When evaluating many products the evaluation does
>> not require a demo for every system. If the motivation was to centralize and
>> integrate with sales force then I'd expect that to be a top requirement and
>> consideration.
>> But again, we should let Sarah update us.
>> On Apr 6, 2014 7:13 PM, "Josh Sokol" <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> Considering that none of them have even logged into the current Ning
>>> social media platform, I have to assume that their evaluations were based
>>> solely on the functionality that they wanted, rather than what would benefit
>>> the OWASP community as a whole.
>>> ~josh
>>> On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Michael Coates <michael.coates at owasp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I know there is a ton of integration into our existing sales force data
>>>> and many other benefits when Sarah and team evaluated. I'll wait for Sarah's
>>>> update and thoughts.
>>>> On Apr 6, 2014 4:35 PM, "Josh Sokol" <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>> Last week I spent some time with Kate going through the functionality
>>>>> and features of the Salesforce Communities and I have to say that I'm a bit
>>>>> disgruntled.  For two years now we've had the http://my.owasp.org Ning site
>>>>> with way more features and over 300 members and now we want to move to this
>>>>> Salesforce portal thing?  Maybe if some of the staff took the time to use
>>>>> the existing social media platform, then they would realize just how much
>>>>> this Salesforce one sucks.  And I'm working on the conversion to Ning 3.0
>>>>> right now which adds a ton of additional features as well
>>>>> (http://myowasp2.ning.com).  It looks better, works better, and already has
>>>>> some level of backing from our membership.  Why would we roll out a lesser
>>>>> version of what we already have?  I went into this with the hopes that the
>>>>> new platform would blow Ning out of the water and I could get rid of it, but
>>>>> I left feeling like we should still maintain the Ning platform because
>>>>> Salesforce just doesn't have the features necessary to be usable.  Simple
>>>>> things like rich text formatting, user messaging, photo sharing, video
>>>>> sharing, etc.  If we had nothing, then it would work, but why anyone would
>>>>> prefer Salesforce over Ning is beyond me.  In addition, I'll note that the
>>>>> "Logout" link in this Salesforce portal does not exist on every page which
>>>>> makes it difficult for users to log out and can become a security issue.
>>>>> Needless to say, this is very frustrating.
>>>>> ~josh
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Sarah/Michael,
>>>>>> The original proposal for the member nation portal discussed that it
>>>>>> would manage "event types, memberships, and donations as well as an
>>>>>> integrated eCommerce solution". This is awesome. I think will be a great
>>>>>> thing for the community and staff.
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/a/owasp.org/document/d/1yDTFCdmmZN3t732sqHTOFHMhQrXgUC46YbgDhGROcXM/edit?pli=1
>>>>>> Did we also plan to use this for application security/wiki content or
>>>>>> for OWASP project management? We never discussed that when we voted on the
>>>>>> member nation proposal. I though the portal was mostly going to be for
>>>>>> eCommerce streamlining, like the proposal said.
>>>>>> Has the scope grown? Sarah, can you give the board an update on the
>>>>>> member nation portal and what it's purpose will be? I see from recent email
>>>>>> that we plan to use it for project management? What will that look like?
>>>>>> Thanks all, Jim
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