[Owasp-board] Member Nation Portal

Josh Sokol josh.sokol at owasp.org
Mon Apr 7 03:09:21 UTC 2014

To a large extent I agree with you.  The key difference here is that we are
talking about replacing an existing platform with over 300 participants for
a brand new, sub-par, social media experience.  We've had enough issues
getting members to use social media in general, why would we want to roll
with anuything with such limited functionality and flexibility?

I have followed up with Sarah and she said she will provide an update
On Apr 6, 2014 9:48 PM, "Michael Coates" <michael.coates at owasp.org> wrote:

> I wouldn't be concerned. When evaluating many products the evaluation does
> not require a demo for every system. If the motivation was to centralize
> and integrate with sales force then I'd expect that to be a top requirement
> and consideration.
> But again, we should let Sarah update us.
> On Apr 6, 2014 7:13 PM, "Josh Sokol" <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>> Considering that none of them have even logged into the current Ning
>> social media platform, I have to assume that their evaluations were based
>> solely on the functionality that they wanted, rather than what would
>> benefit the OWASP community as a whole.
>> ~josh
>> On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Michael Coates <michael.coates at owasp.org>wrote:
>>> I know there is a ton of integration into our existing sales force data
>>> and many other benefits when Sarah and team evaluated. I'll wait for
>>> Sarah's update and thoughts.
>>>  On Apr 6, 2014 4:35 PM, "Josh Sokol" <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>> Last week I spent some time with Kate going through the functionality
>>>> and features of the Salesforce Communities and I have to say that I'm a bit
>>>> disgruntled.  For two years now we've had the http://my.owasp.org Ning
>>>> site with way more features and over 300 members and now we want to move to
>>>> this Salesforce portal thing?  Maybe if some of the staff took the time to
>>>> use the existing social media platform, then they would realize just how
>>>> much this Salesforce one sucks.  And I'm working on the conversion to Ning
>>>> 3.0 right now which adds a ton of additional features as well (
>>>> http://myowasp2.ning.com).  It looks better, works better, and already
>>>> has some level of backing from our membership.  Why would we roll out a
>>>> lesser version of what we already have?  I went into this with the hopes
>>>> that the new platform would blow Ning out of the water and I could get rid
>>>> of it, but I left feeling like we should still maintain the Ning platform
>>>> because Salesforce just doesn't have the features necessary to be usable.
>>>> Simple things like rich text formatting, user messaging, photo sharing,
>>>> video sharing, etc.  If we had nothing, then it would work, but why anyone
>>>> would prefer Salesforce over Ning is beyond me.  In addition, I'll note
>>>> that the "Logout" link in this Salesforce portal does not exist on every
>>>> page which makes it difficult for users to log out and can become a
>>>> security issue.  Needless to say, this is very frustrating.
>>>> ~josh
>>>> On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org>wrote:
>>>>>  Sarah/Michael,
>>>>> The original proposal for the member nation portal discussed that it
>>>>> would manage "event types, memberships, and donations as well as an
>>>>> integrated eCommerce solution". This is awesome. I think will be a great
>>>>> thing for the community and staff.
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/a/owasp.org/document/d/1yDTFCdmmZN3t732sqHTOFHMhQrXgUC46YbgDhGROcXM/edit?pli=1
>>>>> Did we also plan to use this for application security/wiki content or
>>>>> for OWASP project management? We never discussed that when we voted on the
>>>>> member nation proposal. I though the portal was mostly going to be for
>>>>> eCommerce streamlining, like the proposal said.
>>>>> Has the scope grown? Sarah, can you give the board an update on the
>>>>> member nation portal and what it's purpose will be? I see from recent email
>>>>> that we plan to use it for project management? What will that look like?
>>>>> Thanks all, Jim
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