[Owasp-board] Ciso project funding

Josh Sokol josh.sokol at owasp.org
Thu Oct 10 19:42:57 UTC 2013


I understand what you're saying, but I respectfully disagree.  39% of the
total Austin Chapter budget vs 9% of this other budget seem like completely
different ballparks to me.  Also, maybe I'm misunderstanding the budget,
but this is $58k yet to be allocated to a chapter (it is based on expected
profit for an event that has not happened yet) and is more funds than I've
ever seen any chapter ever use, even NY/NJ.  If this were Eoin's suggestion
to take it from funds that are already earmarked for the chapters then you
better believe I'd be screaming about it (sorry Eoin), but here are funds
that potentially could be allocated because they have not yet been "ring
fenced".  And fortunately, because of the funding source, none of these
funds should have donator requirements placed on them (it's conference

Now, seeing as the current budget reflects a ~$141k profit and the event is
next week, maybe those numbers are off since the "Conservative" estimate
for profit was over $405k.  I dunno, but $58k going to one chapter for a
Foundation event seems like a lot to me, hence why I called it out.  It was
bad enough when Austin had $17k in the bank even though we were routinely
spending it.  I can't wait to hear the cries for raiding the chapter cookie
jar when NY/NJ has $58k to pilfer.


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Dennis Groves <dennis.groves at owasp.org>wrote:

> Hey Josh,
> Austin has $13k, we should take it from there - they won't miss it!
> I hope you can suddenly see a hundred issues with such a suggestion. :-)
> The money is ear-marked for other purposes. We can not just go around
> robbing Peter to pay Paul, further doing so only kicks the can down the
> road, when the now earmarked money doesn't exist!
> Additionally, OWASP as a charity has a legal requirement to spend the
> funds according to the donators requirements. So if the donators gave to
> the 'local chapter' we legally can not just use that money where we *need*it like to "OWASP on the move."
> That said, I am confident a solution will be found shortly.
> On 10 Oct 2013, at 11:20, Josh Sokol wrote:
> Am I the only one who does a double take when I see over $58,000 allocated
> to the "Local Chapter" for running the AppSec events? Holy cow! Take $5k
> from there. They won't miss it!
> ~josh
> Dennis Groves <http://about.me/dennis.groves>, MSc
> Email me <dennis.groves at owasp.org> or schedule a meeting<http://goo.gl/8sPIy>
> .
> Unless someone like you...cares a whole awful lot...
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