[Owasp-board] OWASP Board Meetings - scheduling of calls for next year - could you please include Asia timezones in consideration

Sarah Baso sarah.baso at owasp.org
Tue Nov 12 16:12:19 UTC 2013


Nope- we are good.


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Eoin <eoinkeary at gmail.com> wrote:

> So nothing to do for me here? yes no?
>
>
>
> On 12 November 2013 16:03, Sarah Baso <sarah.baso at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> Not sure if you are looking for a confirmation from Eoin or not - but
>> yes, all has been updated:
>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Foundation_ByLaws
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Michael Coates <michael.coates at owasp.org
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I thought I saw an email from sarah saying the bylaws had been updated.
>>> If you can confirm it's all good then we're set on this issue.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Michael Coates | OWASP | @_mwc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Eoin Keary <eoinkeary at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does this still need attention?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eoin Keary
>>>> Owasp Global Board
>>>> +353 87 977 2988
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8 Nov 2013, at 23:06, Michael Coates <michael.coates at owasp.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Yes, we formally voted on this change in the europe board meeting and
>>>> bylways should be updated.
>>>>
>>>> Eoin, as scribe* can you update the bylaws per this vote. I see we do
>>>> have the vote already recorded in our voting history here:
>>>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Board_Votes (August 19, 2013)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * I think we should rename the secretary role to scribe. It has a nicer
>>>> ring to it in my opinion. But, it's just a name and an important role
>>>> regardless of name choice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Michael Coates | OWASP | @_mwc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just to point out a technicality here....the OWASP Foundation Bylaws
>>>>> do say that the Board should have regular meetings monthly (Section 3.03).
>>>>> If the majority of the new Board would still like to do quarterly, then
>>>>> perhaps it would make sense to amend the bylaws?  Michael, can we add this
>>>>> as an agenda item to the 11/22 meeting?
>>>>>
>>>>> ~josh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Michael Coates <
>>>>> michael.coates at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm still very much in favor of the quarterly board meetings (plus
>>>>>> they did pass by vote so others agree). We had tremendous value from a
>>>>>> larger time slot in Europe. However, if after trying a few we find we
>>>>>> aren't getting results then lets revisit and revise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with Josh's points on trying to maximize the "remote to in
>>>>>> person" effect. The challenge is that the conference in-person meetings
>>>>>> rotate and we can't easily move large plasma screens. That said, I wonder
>>>>>> if it's an option at NYC to rent a higher tech room with better equipment?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the element of required in-person meetings, even though it is not
>>>>>> a requirement, we will still get several people in person at large events
>>>>>> like this. I think we'll still have many benefits based on different
>>>>>> individuals meeting up in person.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Michael Coates | OWASP | @_mwc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Part of the problem may be in how you are conducting those off-site
>>>>>>> meetings.  Simply having a phone call probably is not enough.  That said,
>>>>>>> at NI, we have large offices in Hungary, Malaysia, and Costa Rica and while
>>>>>>> in-person isn't always possible, face-to-face definitely is.  Maybe that's
>>>>>>> the difference?  If you're simply using a laptop set up in a hotel suite,
>>>>>>> then how face-to-face can you really get?  There is specialized video
>>>>>>> conferencing equipment available that gets much close to the in-person
>>>>>>> experience than that.  Perhaps it would be worth looking into?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~josh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I voted against not having face-to-face meetings, I believe it is
>>>>>>>> important to continuity of any  board for any organization in the
>>>>>>>> world I tried the remote thing for AppSecEMEA this year as my wife
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> my 4 children needed me so I get it.... but there is much that gets
>>>>>>>> accomplished face-to-face that never can be done over a webex.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We'll try at AppSecUSA as a "off-site" meeting after all we are
>>>>>>>> "hi-tech association"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > Travel is difficult for me since my wife and 4 kids count on me
>>>>>>>> to be around
>>>>>>>> > quite a bit.  It's why I needed the "in person" rule to be
>>>>>>>> amended before I
>>>>>>>> > could run for the board.  So, even if you attempt an in-person
>>>>>>>> all day at
>>>>>>>> > AppSecEU or the like, chances are high that I will still be
>>>>>>>> attending it
>>>>>>>> > remotely to the best of my ability.  Personally, I would much
>>>>>>>> rather fit in
>>>>>>>> > 2 hours once a month, than to try to take a whole day every
>>>>>>>> quarter.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > ~josh
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> We might want to change the 8-hr quarterly meeting and go back
>>>>>>>> to 90
>>>>>>>> >> minute monthly meeting or the like. It will be impossible to
>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>> >> Hawaii, East coast US, Asia and European time zones with a 8-hr
>>>>>>>> >> quarterly meeting requirement. :(
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> PS: Or maybe just have meetings onsite at my house? ;-)
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Aloha Tobias!
>>>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>>>> >> Jim Manico
>>>>>>>> >> @Manicode
>>>>>>>> >> (808) 652-3805
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> > On Nov 8, 2013, at 4:57 AM, Tobias <tobias.gondrom at owasp.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> > Hello dear board members,
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> > I am very much looking forward to joining the team and working
>>>>>>>> with you
>>>>>>>> >> > for the best of our OWASP community. And will be great to see
>>>>>>>> you in two
>>>>>>>> >> > weeks at AppSecUS in NY!
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> > Just a small request:
>>>>>>>> >> > As it seems I will be the first board member based in the Asia
>>>>>>>> region,
>>>>>>>> >> > when planning the schedule of board calls for the next year,
>>>>>>>> could you
>>>>>>>> >> > please include in your considerations for scheduling the Asia
>>>>>>>> timezones.
>>>>>>>> >> > I have no problem to go on calls at very long hours for OWASP,
>>>>>>>> but calls
>>>>>>>> >> > from 2:00am to 7:00am HK/China time zone could be really hard
>>>>>>>> for me.
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> > Cheers and all the best, Tobias
>>>>>>>> >> >
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> Eoin Keary
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