[Owasp-board] OWASP Board Meetings - scheduling of calls for next year - could you please include Asia timezones in consideration

Sarah Baso sarah.baso at owasp.org
Tue Nov 12 16:03:36 UTC 2013


Not sure if you are looking for a confirmation from Eoin or not - but yes,
all has been updated:
https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Foundation_ByLaws


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Michael Coates <michael.coates at owasp.org>wrote:

> I thought I saw an email from sarah saying the bylaws had been updated. If
> you can confirm it's all good then we're set on this issue.
>
>
> --
> Michael Coates | OWASP | @_mwc
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Eoin Keary <eoinkeary at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does this still need attention?
>>
>>
>> Eoin Keary
>> Owasp Global Board
>> +353 87 977 2988
>>
>>
>> On 8 Nov 2013, at 23:06, Michael Coates <michael.coates at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, we formally voted on this change in the europe board meeting and
>> bylways should be updated.
>>
>> Eoin, as scribe* can you update the bylaws per this vote. I see we do
>> have the vote already recorded in our voting history here:
>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Board_Votes (August 19, 2013)
>>
>>
>> * I think we should rename the secretary role to scribe. It has a nicer
>> ring to it in my opinion. But, it's just a name and an important role
>> regardless of name choice.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Coates | OWASP | @_mwc
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Just to point out a technicality here....the OWASP Foundation Bylaws do
>>> say that the Board should have regular meetings monthly (Section 3.03).  If
>>> the majority of the new Board would still like to do quarterly, then
>>> perhaps it would make sense to amend the bylaws?  Michael, can we add this
>>> as an agenda item to the 11/22 meeting?
>>>
>>> ~josh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Michael Coates <michael.coates at owasp.org
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm still very much in favor of the quarterly board meetings (plus they
>>>> did pass by vote so others agree). We had tremendous value from a larger
>>>> time slot in Europe. However, if after trying a few we find we aren't
>>>> getting results then lets revisit and revise.
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Josh's points on trying to maximize the "remote to in
>>>> person" effect. The challenge is that the conference in-person meetings
>>>> rotate and we can't easily move large plasma screens. That said, I wonder
>>>> if it's an option at NYC to rent a higher tech room with better equipment?
>>>>
>>>> On the element of required in-person meetings, even though it is not a
>>>> requirement, we will still get several people in person at large events
>>>> like this. I think we'll still have many benefits based on different
>>>> individuals meeting up in person.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Michael Coates | OWASP | @_mwc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Part of the problem may be in how you are conducting those off-site
>>>>> meetings.  Simply having a phone call probably is not enough.  That said,
>>>>> at NI, we have large offices in Hungary, Malaysia, and Costa Rica and while
>>>>> in-person isn't always possible, face-to-face definitely is.  Maybe that's
>>>>> the difference?  If you're simply using a laptop set up in a hotel suite,
>>>>> then how face-to-face can you really get?  There is specialized video
>>>>> conferencing equipment available that gets much close to the in-person
>>>>> experience than that.  Perhaps it would be worth looking into?
>>>>>
>>>>> ~josh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I voted against not having face-to-face meetings, I believe it is
>>>>>> important to continuity of any  board for any organization in the
>>>>>> world I tried the remote thing for AppSecEMEA this year as my wife and
>>>>>> my 4 children needed me so I get it.... but there is much that gets
>>>>>> accomplished face-to-face that never can be done over a webex.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We'll try at AppSecUSA as a "off-site" meeting after all we are
>>>>>> "hi-tech association"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > Travel is difficult for me since my wife and 4 kids count on me to
>>>>>> be around
>>>>>> > quite a bit.  It's why I needed the "in person" rule to be amended
>>>>>> before I
>>>>>> > could run for the board.  So, even if you attempt an in-person all
>>>>>> day at
>>>>>> > AppSecEU or the like, chances are high that I will still be
>>>>>> attending it
>>>>>> > remotely to the best of my ability.  Personally, I would much
>>>>>> rather fit in
>>>>>> > 2 hours once a month, than to try to take a whole day every quarter.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ~josh
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> We might want to change the 8-hr quarterly meeting and go back to
>>>>>> 90
>>>>>> >> minute monthly meeting or the like. It will be impossible to please
>>>>>> >> Hawaii, East coast US, Asia and European time zones with a 8-hr
>>>>>> >> quarterly meeting requirement. :(
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> PS: Or maybe just have meetings onsite at my house? ;-)
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Aloha Tobias!
>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>> >> Jim Manico
>>>>>> >> @Manicode
>>>>>> >> (808) 652-3805
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> > On Nov 8, 2013, at 4:57 AM, Tobias <tobias.gondrom at owasp.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Hello dear board members,
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > I am very much looking forward to joining the team and working
>>>>>> with you
>>>>>> >> > for the best of our OWASP community. And will be great to see
>>>>>> you in two
>>>>>> >> > weeks at AppSecUS in NY!
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Just a small request:
>>>>>> >> > As it seems I will be the first board member based in the Asia
>>>>>> region,
>>>>>> >> > when planning the schedule of board calls for the next year,
>>>>>> could you
>>>>>> >> > please include in your considerations for scheduling the Asia
>>>>>> timezones.
>>>>>> >> > I have no problem to go on calls at very long hours for OWASP,
>>>>>> but calls
>>>>>> >> > from 2:00am to 7:00am HK/China time zone could be really hard
>>>>>> for me.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Cheers and all the best, Tobias
>>>>>> >> >
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