[Owasp-board] OWASP Board Meetings - scheduling of calls for next year - could you please include Asia timezones in consideration

Michael Coates michael.coates at owasp.org
Sat Nov 9 02:34:51 UTC 2013


Works for me.


--
Michael Coates | OWASP | @_mwc



On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:

> Board,
>
> I'd like to merge https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Board and
> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Board_Meetings. The first is out of
> date.
>
> I am thinking of merging OWASP_Board_Meetings into
> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Board and just redirect the board meeting
> page into the main board page. The OWASP "about" page links the out of date
> Board page, this seems like the cleanest merge.
>
> I'll just add the old board content to an "about" tab.
>
> Acceptable all?
> - Jim
>
> > FYI - Bylaws updated and added to wiki:
> > https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Foundation_ByLaws
> >
> > Sarah
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Michael Coates <michael.coates at owasp.org
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, we formally voted on this change in the europe board meeting and
> >> bylways should be updated.
> >>
> >> Eoin, as scribe* can you update the bylaws per this vote. I see we do
> have
> >> the vote already recorded in our voting history here:
> >> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Board_Votes (August 19, 2013)
> >>
> >>
> >> * I think we should rename the secretary role to scribe. It has a nicer
> >> ring to it in my opinion. But, it's just a name and an important role
> >> regardless of name choice.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Michael Coates | OWASP | @_mwc
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just to point out a technicality here....the OWASP Foundation Bylaws do
> >>> say that the Board should have regular meetings monthly (Section
> 3.03).  If
> >>> the majority of the new Board would still like to do quarterly, then
> >>> perhaps it would make sense to amend the bylaws?  Michael, can we add
> this
> >>> as an agenda item to the 11/22 meeting?
> >>>
> >>> ~josh
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Michael Coates <
> michael.coates at owasp.org>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm still very much in favor of the quarterly board meetings (plus
> they
> >>>> did pass by vote so others agree). We had tremendous value from a
> larger
> >>>> time slot in Europe. However, if after trying a few we find we aren't
> >>>> getting results then lets revisit and revise.
> >>>>
> >>>> I agree with Josh's points on trying to maximize the "remote to in
> >>>> person" effect. The challenge is that the conference in-person
> meetings
> >>>> rotate and we can't easily move large plasma screens. That said, I
> wonder
> >>>> if it's an option at NYC to rent a higher tech room with better
> equipment?
> >>>>
> >>>> On the element of required in-person meetings, even though it is not a
> >>>> requirement, we will still get several people in person at large
> events
> >>>> like this. I think we'll still have many benefits based on different
> >>>> individuals meeting up in person.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -Michael
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Michael Coates | OWASP | @_mwc
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Part of the problem may be in how you are conducting those off-site
> >>>>> meetings.  Simply having a phone call probably is not enough.  That
> said,
> >>>>> at NI, we have large offices in Hungary, Malaysia, and Costa Rica
> and while
> >>>>> in-person isn't always possible, face-to-face definitely is.  Maybe
> that's
> >>>>> the difference?  If you're simply using a laptop set up in a hotel
> suite,
> >>>>> then how face-to-face can you really get?  There is specialized video
> >>>>> conferencing equipment available that gets much close to the
> in-person
> >>>>> experience than that.  Perhaps it would be worth looking into?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ~josh
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I voted against not having face-to-face meetings, I believe it is
> >>>>>> important to continuity of any  board for any organization in the
> >>>>>> world I tried the remote thing for AppSecEMEA this year as my wife
> and
> >>>>>> my 4 children needed me so I get it.... but there is much that gets
> >>>>>> accomplished face-to-face that never can be done over a webex.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We'll try at AppSecUSA as a "off-site" meeting after all we are
> >>>>>> "hi-tech association"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Travel is difficult for me since my wife and 4 kids count on me to
> >>>>>> be around
> >>>>>>> quite a bit.  It's why I needed the "in person" rule to be amended
> >>>>>> before I
> >>>>>>> could run for the board.  So, even if you attempt an in-person all
> >>>>>> day at
> >>>>>>> AppSecEU or the like, chances are high that I will still be
> >>>>>> attending it
> >>>>>>> remotely to the best of my ability.  Personally, I would much
> rather
> >>>>>> fit in
> >>>>>>> 2 hours once a month, than to try to take a whole day every
> quarter.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ~josh
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We might want to change the 8-hr quarterly meeting and go back to
> 90
> >>>>>>>> minute monthly meeting or the like. It will be impossible to
> please
> >>>>>>>> Hawaii, East coast US, Asia and European time zones with a 8-hr
> >>>>>>>> quarterly meeting requirement. :(
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> PS: Or maybe just have meetings onsite at my house? ;-)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Aloha Tobias!
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Jim Manico
> >>>>>>>> @Manicode
> >>>>>>>> (808) 652-3805
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 2013, at 4:57 AM, Tobias <tobias.gondrom at owasp.org>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hello dear board members,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I am very much looking forward to joining the team and working
> >>>>>> with you
> >>>>>>>>> for the best of our OWASP community. And will be great to see you
> >>>>>> in two
> >>>>>>>>> weeks at AppSecUS in NY!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Just a small request:
> >>>>>>>>> As it seems I will be the first board member based in the Asia
> >>>>>> region,
> >>>>>>>>> when planning the schedule of board calls for the next year,
> >>>>>> could you
> >>>>>>>>> please include in your considerations for scheduling the Asia
> >>>>>> timezones.
> >>>>>>>>> I have no problem to go on calls at very long hours for OWASP,
> >>>>>> but calls
> >>>>>>>>> from 2:00am to 7:00am HK/China time zone could be really hard for
> >>>>>> me.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Cheers and all the best, Tobias
> >>>>>>>>>
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