[Owasp-board] OWASP Board Meetings - scheduling of calls for next year - could you please include Asia timezones in consideration

Sarah Baso sarah.baso at owasp.org
Sat Nov 9 01:34:32 UTC 2013


FYI - Bylaws updated and added to wiki:
https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Foundation_ByLaws

Sarah


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Michael Coates <michael.coates at owasp.org>wrote:

> Yes, we formally voted on this change in the europe board meeting and
> bylways should be updated.
>
> Eoin, as scribe* can you update the bylaws per this vote. I see we do have
> the vote already recorded in our voting history here:
> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Board_Votes (August 19, 2013)
>
>
> * I think we should rename the secretary role to scribe. It has a nicer
> ring to it in my opinion. But, it's just a name and an important role
> regardless of name choice.
>
>
> --
> Michael Coates | OWASP | @_mwc
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> Just to point out a technicality here....the OWASP Foundation Bylaws do
>> say that the Board should have regular meetings monthly (Section 3.03).  If
>> the majority of the new Board would still like to do quarterly, then
>> perhaps it would make sense to amend the bylaws?  Michael, can we add this
>> as an agenda item to the 11/22 meeting?
>>
>> ~josh
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Michael Coates <michael.coates at owasp.org>wrote:
>>
>>> I'm still very much in favor of the quarterly board meetings (plus they
>>> did pass by vote so others agree). We had tremendous value from a larger
>>> time slot in Europe. However, if after trying a few we find we aren't
>>> getting results then lets revisit and revise.
>>>
>>> I agree with Josh's points on trying to maximize the "remote to in
>>> person" effect. The challenge is that the conference in-person meetings
>>> rotate and we can't easily move large plasma screens. That said, I wonder
>>> if it's an option at NYC to rent a higher tech room with better equipment?
>>>
>>> On the element of required in-person meetings, even though it is not a
>>> requirement, we will still get several people in person at large events
>>> like this. I think we'll still have many benefits based on different
>>> individuals meeting up in person.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Michael Coates | OWASP | @_mwc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Part of the problem may be in how you are conducting those off-site
>>>> meetings.  Simply having a phone call probably is not enough.  That said,
>>>> at NI, we have large offices in Hungary, Malaysia, and Costa Rica and while
>>>> in-person isn't always possible, face-to-face definitely is.  Maybe that's
>>>> the difference?  If you're simply using a laptop set up in a hotel suite,
>>>> then how face-to-face can you really get?  There is specialized video
>>>> conferencing equipment available that gets much close to the in-person
>>>> experience than that.  Perhaps it would be worth looking into?
>>>>
>>>> ~josh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I voted against not having face-to-face meetings, I believe it is
>>>>> important to continuity of any  board for any organization in the
>>>>> world I tried the remote thing for AppSecEMEA this year as my wife and
>>>>> my 4 children needed me so I get it.... but there is much that gets
>>>>> accomplished face-to-face that never can be done over a webex.
>>>>>
>>>>> We'll try at AppSecUSA as a "off-site" meeting after all we are
>>>>> "hi-tech association"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Travel is difficult for me since my wife and 4 kids count on me to
>>>>> be around
>>>>> > quite a bit.  It's why I needed the "in person" rule to be amended
>>>>> before I
>>>>> > could run for the board.  So, even if you attempt an in-person all
>>>>> day at
>>>>> > AppSecEU or the like, chances are high that I will still be
>>>>> attending it
>>>>> > remotely to the best of my ability.  Personally, I would much rather
>>>>> fit in
>>>>> > 2 hours once a month, than to try to take a whole day every quarter.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ~josh
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> We might want to change the 8-hr quarterly meeting and go back to 90
>>>>> >> minute monthly meeting or the like. It will be impossible to please
>>>>> >> Hawaii, East coast US, Asia and European time zones with a 8-hr
>>>>> >> quarterly meeting requirement. :(
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> PS: Or maybe just have meetings onsite at my house? ;-)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Aloha Tobias!
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> Jim Manico
>>>>> >> @Manicode
>>>>> >> (808) 652-3805
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> > On Nov 8, 2013, at 4:57 AM, Tobias <tobias.gondrom at owasp.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Hello dear board members,
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > I am very much looking forward to joining the team and working
>>>>> with you
>>>>> >> > for the best of our OWASP community. And will be great to see you
>>>>> in two
>>>>> >> > weeks at AppSecUS in NY!
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Just a small request:
>>>>> >> > As it seems I will be the first board member based in the Asia
>>>>> region,
>>>>> >> > when planning the schedule of board calls for the next year,
>>>>> could you
>>>>> >> > please include in your considerations for scheduling the Asia
>>>>> timezones.
>>>>> >> > I have no problem to go on calls at very long hours for OWASP,
>>>>> but calls
>>>>> >> > from 2:00am to 7:00am HK/China time zone could be really hard for
>>>>> me.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Cheers and all the best, Tobias
>>>>> >> >
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