[Owasp-board] Recording, Report, and Action items from today's Meeting

Eoin eoin.keary at owasp.org
Sat Jun 1 20:06:55 UTC 2013


I agree. I believe we need to engage with the community on these issues.

Eoin Keary
Owasp Global Board
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On 1 Jun 2013, at 20:16, "Dennis Groves" <dennis.groves at owasp.org> wrote:

> On 1 Jun 2013, at 4:57, Eoin wrote:
> 
> I'd like to see what the individual conference organisers feel is the value if hiring a full time Conf manager, can we ask them please?
> People that have driven events like appsec eu, appsec USA and also regional events would be worth talking to.
> 
> I have said this many times to many people, however, I will put a record down so that all of you I haven't been able to communicate with personally will know my position.
> 
> I have done a systems study of OWASP. Projects, Conferences, Chapters and Memberships. all have a strong relationship with each other. People come for a project like the OWASP top 10; subsequently attend a conference, and then join a local Chapter and become a member. Another is a person joins a chapter, subsequently attends a conferences and then joins a project. These are just a couple of the many examples of that systems study of relationships. They all feed off each other. The result of that study however was clear.
> 
> Conferences more than any of the other 3 areas is where we currently capture the value in cash that we generate in projects, chapters and memberships. Pareto efficiency says then we need to really focus on our conferences. Its our primary value collection point. It should be a well oiled cash machine.
> 
> I have known the Blackhat & Defcon crowd since it started (Jeff and I were best friends throughout high school). And I can assure you that there is a TEAM of paid people involved in addition to the volunteers; like the proctors. Even the speakers are paid! I know many other professional conference organisers as well. And one thing that is consistent is that they have more than one paid employee.
> 
> Now I understand we have a different model, however it is a universal law that to make money you must spend money. It is called investing. And we have always, always, always needed to invest more into our conferences - starting with building a team of people, and indeed this is exactly what Dinis did to pull of the Summits. (Please note: summits are not conferences, and did not generate revenue!)
> 
> Take a page from the summits; or blackhat, or deacon, or RSA or any conference committee of your choosing: We don't just need to urgently backfill Sarah's position, we also need to backfill it with perhaps four additional people at a minimum. Investing in our Conferences, it is investing in our revenue generation!
> 
> Dennis
> 
> Dennis Groves, MSc
> Email me or schedule a meeting.
> 
> "Unless someone like you...cares a whole awful lot...nothing is going
> to get better...It's not." -- The Lorax
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