[Owasp-board] Feedblitz

Jim Manico jim.manico at owasp.org
Mon Jul 29 19:24:21 UTC 2013


> The best path forwrard is to add our system account (that sarah and staff
> have acces to) as the top admin on the blog. This will then show a generic
> owasp account as the author for these posts. Too bad we can't pass through
> the original author of the post we're sharing, but at least its a generic
> owasp account that's listed. For those that havne't followed the whole
> thread, this "author" reference is only in meta data and impacgts some rss
> readers. When the user views the blog or clicks the link they'll go to the
> original blog author's page.

Good deal. You will need to first add owasp at owasp.org as an admin, then
remove all the other users, then add the users back again. I think this
is the way to get owasp at owasp.org as the top blogger account. We don't
even need to use it, it's just there as a placeholder.

Cool?

- Jim


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> Michael Coates | OWASP | @_mwc
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> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
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>> I just removed myself from the owasp blogspot admin. I think you are at
>> the top of the list now, can you check?
>>
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>> --
>> Jim Manico
>> @Manicode
>> (808) 652-3805
>>
>> On Jul 22, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Michael Coates <michael.coates at owasp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting, whatever you changed made a difference.
>>
>> Now my name is listed at the top of the RSS source (view source for
>> http://feeds.feedblitz.com/owasp&x=1 and search for following:
>> <author><name>Michael Coates</name><email>noreply at blogger.com )
>>
>> See my attached screenshot to see the original problem. Now it shows my
>> name as the author. I did share this link, so things may be fixed. Or, we
>> may have just changed the problem from showing Jim Manico as the author for
>> everything to being Michael Coates for everything.
>>
>> To finish our testing of this let's try 1 more thing:
>> 1. Jim creates an account at theoldreader.com"
>> 2. Jim adds his share url as a splice in the feedblitz site
>> 3. Jim and Michael both share some stories
>> 4. We confirm the author changes appropriately.
>>
>> If step #4 fails then my next idea is to make feeds at owasp.org an account
>> on the blog and configure items so the author is always that generic
>> account.
>>
>> Sound good?
>>
>> <Screen Shot 2013-07-22 at 6.11.21 PM.png>
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>> Michael Coates | OWASP | @_mwc
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>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Michael,
>>>
>>> I created the initial blogspot and feedblitz account, but I do not see
>>> any setting in the blogspot admin or feedblitz admin that references my
>>> name - except for the roles for editors of blogspot. And I'm at the top
>>> of that list. I removed myself as a blogspot editor and admin. Can you
>>> see if the problem is still there if you post new articles with no author?
>>>
>>> And this may be a feedblitz issue, not a blogger issue.
>>>
>>> I dug into feedblitz and I see nothing with my name on it in the
>>> settings. Sarah Baso is listed as the admin of our feedblitz account.
>>>
>>> I looked at the actual feed (feed.feedblitz.com/owasp) and only see my
>>> name on one occasion, and that is an article I posted to the blogspot
>>> account regarding the mobile call for data.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I see the problem...
>>>
>>> Aloha,
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Testing is going well. I've uncovered one item we should try and fix.
>>>>
>>>> Here's the raw RSS of the site - http://feeds.feedblitz.com/owasp&x=1
>>>>
>>>> You'll notice the stories are coming from 2 places right now:
>>>> 1. The owasp blog owasp.blogspot.com
>>>> 2. My shared RSS stream from theoldreader.com
>>>>
>>>> This works great - the two feeds are spliced together and everyone sees
>>> all
>>>> the information from the single RSS feedblitz url.
>>>>
>>>> Problem
>>>> - Posts that don't include the meta data <author><name> will end up
>>>> defaulting to the blog author for the RSS field.
>>>> - Theoldereader.com apparently doesn't include this meta data. The
>>> default
>>>> author for the RSS is Jim Manico. So, any story shared via theoldreader
>>>> shows author "Jim Manico". Depending on the software used (example
>>>> Thurnderbird) this looks like Jim is sharing everything in the feed.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't found a way to fix this yet. I'd be ok if the author was
>>> whoever
>>>> shared the story (best cause is the author data from the original story
>>>> transfers). But having Jim's name listed everywhere seems not right.
>>>>
>>>> Questions
>>>> Jim - any idea how we could change the owasp.blogspot.com to have the
>>>> primary author say "OWASP"? I couldn't find an option.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Michael Coates | OWASP | @_mwc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:31 AM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well right on. Perhaps we can support both methods?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jim Manico
>>>>> @Manicode
>>>>> (808) 652-3805
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 18, 2013, at 10:56 PM, Michael Coates <michael.coates at owasp.org
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim,
>>>>>
>>>>> I tested both methods of submitting.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Option 1: *Email to special email address for
>>>>> http://owasp-appsecnews.blogspot.com/2013/07/test-post.html
>>>>> *Pros*: You can email to the special email address (includes secret
>>>>> token) and it automatically posts to the blog. Then feedblitz picks up
>>> the
>>>>> post and propogates through the primary OWASP RSS
>>>>> *Cons*: It's not easy for sharing news stories at all. You have to
>>>>> construct the entire blog post. This means I have to find a story I
>>> like,
>>>>> copy in the title, the url and the entire contents of the story into
>>> the
>>>>> email
>>>>> *Multi User Support:* Yes, we can create multiple blog authors who can
>>>>> all use the email feature
>>>>>
>>>>> *Option 2: *Use Feedblitz's RSS split to add the "shared rss" from my
>>>>> account on theoldreader.com. This let's me view any of my rss news
>>>>> streams in theoldreader and just click "share" on the story. The story
>>> goes
>>>>> to my theoldreader shared rss feed and it is then propagated to
>>> feedblitz
>>>>> and appears in the primary OWASP RSS
>>>>> *Pros:* Super easy to use. It's the same exact setup as the previous
>>>>> google reader approach
>>>>> *Cons*: None that I can think of. I guess we can't add additional
>>>>> commentary to the shared story, but that's not a big deal
>>>>> *Multi User Support:* Yes, we can configure multiple RSS splits within
>>>>> feedblitz. This allows the option 2 setup for multiple approved
>>> authors.
>>>>>
>>>>> In terms of replacing our old google reader approach I think option #2
>>> is
>>>>> the best idea.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim, your other idea about a blog that has news stories and reactions
>>> from
>>>>> owasp'ers is still possible too. We'll just create actual blog posts on
>>>>> owasp-appsecnews.blogspot.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any other thoughts or ideas on above?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Michael Coates | OWASP | @_mwc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Michael Coates <
>>> michael.coates at owasp.org>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just verified the combination worked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://feeds.feedblitz.com/owasp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shows test post from
>>>>>> http://owasp-appsecnews.blogspot.com/2013/07/test-post.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's move forward with a test.  I'm going to setup both sharing
>>> options
>>>>>> and get some feedback. (email to news blog and also specific rss feed
>>>>>> inbound)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would you be able to also test a bit?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Michael Coates | OWASP | @_mwc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even easier, blogspot supports "posting a blog via email". We can
>>> teach
>>>>>>> our "Editors" to just kick an email to the blogspot feed news, and
>>> the
>>>>>>> feedblitz http://feeds.feedblitz.com/owasp feed should pick it up
>>> right
>>>>>>> away. Nice and simple workflow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aloha,
>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Awesome!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I found the feature and did the merge. We now have the following two
>>>>>>> RSS
>>>>>>>> streams:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Created From:Main
>>>>>>>> Source<http://www.feedblitz.com/f/f.fbz?RssEdit=13916&ajax=4>:
>>>>>>>> *http://owasp.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default*
>>>>>>>> + Splice: <http://www.feedblitz.com/f/f.fbz?RssSplices=13916&ajax=4
>>>>
>>>>>>> * The
>>>>>>>> RSS feed URL:<
>>>>>>> http://owasp-appsecnews.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default?alt=rss>
>>>>>>>> * http://owasp-appsecnews.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default?alt=rss
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I like jim's idea of adding news with a bit of thought/commentary to
>>>>>>>> owasp-appsecnews.com
>>>>>>>> Also, we can still maintain the simple 1 click share method by
>>> splice
>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>>> new feed from an approved individual.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The outbound point is here:
>>>>>>>> http://feeds.feedblitz.com/owasp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any other thoughts from anyone? If not, I recommend we give this
>>>>>>> approach a
>>>>>>>> try for a few weeks and then decide, if all is good, to promote
>>>>>>> throughout
>>>>>>>> owasp.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Michael Coates | OWASP | @_mwc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When you click on the main OWASP feedblitz feed, you can "add other
>>>>>>>>> feeds" and include twitter, youtube, other RSS feeds and many other
>>>>>>>>> sources into the main feed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So yes we can do this, and no we do not need another agregator.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Aloha,
>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jim,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Have you found if feedblitz can handle multiple incoming streams?
>>> If
>>>>>>> so,
>>>>>>>>>> that's awesome and simplifies our process. If not, then we need
>>> to do
>>>>>>>>> step
>>>>>>>>>> 2 (RSS Aggregator) in my other email.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I also like the idea of a moderated news blogs with comments too.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Michael Coates | OWASP | @_mwc
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Feedblitz is a feed aggregation service, among other things.
>>> It's a
>>>>>>>>>>> replacement to feedburner (which is no longer maintained).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I set up Feedblitz for OWASP via feed at owasp.org and Sarah logged
>>>>>>> in and
>>>>>>>>>>> provided payment info.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The test feed is set up at https://feeds.feedblitz.com/owaspand is
>>>>>>>>>>> currently only using the OWASP Blog feed to drive it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The feed account at feedblitz is very detailed. Solid service.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest we just have 2 blogs: One for OWASP news (the current
>>>>>>>>>>> OWASP.blogspot.com) and have another for application security
>>> news
>>>>>>> (
>>>>>>>>>>> owasp-appsecnews.blogspot.com). Both of these blogs will
>>> provide a
>>>>>>> RSS
>>>>>>>>>>> feed that can be fed into Feedblitz.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (Approved) editors who want to submit an article to
>>>>>>>>>>> owasp-appsecnews.blogspot.com can do so easily. Just send an
>>> email
>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>> auto-posts, or just write an article with the news article and a
>>> few
>>>>>>>>>>> sentence comment. This is a bit more work that just hitting
>>> "share"
>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>>>>>>> reader, but since it requires real "intention" and not just a
>>>>>>> click, we
>>>>>>>>>>> should get higher quality news.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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