[Owasp-board] Member Nation Portal

Sarah Baso sarah.baso at owasp.org
Fri Dec 13 18:23:06 UTC 2013


Yes - vote requested and happy to continue to take questions as they come
up!

Thanks!
Sarah


On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:

> Although questions will continue to pop up, I vote yes on this move
> assuming a vote was requested.
>
> Nice work, Sarah.
>
> --
> Jim Manico
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> On Dec 13, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Sarah Baso <sarah.baso at owasp.org> wrote:
>
> All -
>
> Dave, Kate, and I had a call with our rep at Member Nation today and I
> also have spent a bit of time on the financials. I have updated the
> proposal here:
> https://docs.google.com/a/owasp.org/document/d/1yDTFCdmmZN3t732sqHTOFHMhQrXgUC46YbgDhGROcXM/edit
>
> Here are the key points of new information
>
>    - The cost of all the systems that the new Member Nation Portal will
>    be able to replace for us starting in 2014, is $35,000/year.  Note that
>    some of those systems/costs are based on actual registrations so I have
>    used past numbers and current projections to put together an estimate.
>    - This "cost" does not include the staff time/costs in managing
>    multiple registration systems, running ineffective reports, and other
>    operational overhead.  I expect that this new system will be much better
>    for our data management and staff time in managing (not to mention the
>    benefits for the community).
>    - The first year costs at the point are estimates ($45,000) and we are
>    hoping to get that number down by handling some of our own data migration
>    and customization.
>    - On our call this morning, we learned that Salesforce has adjusted
>    some of its pricing (and minimums), which will save us an additional $2600
>    on our annual fees (reducing them to $11,100)
>    - *We should be able to break even with costs after 2 years and
>    recognizing $26,000 in savings in year 3.*
>
>
> Here are some answers to the other questions in this thread:
>
> *Internationalization*
>
>    - Yes supports internationalization - currency is based on merchant
>    accounts and we will be able to accept payments in other currencies (which
>    will settle into whatever accounts we have set up).
>    - Languages - Salesforce translates into the following languages
>    (built in): English, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Spanish, Swedish,
>    Korean, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, and Thai
>
>
> *Handling payments*
>
>    - Payments will be handled through our same payment processors - chase
>    payment tech and payflow pro. Member Nation itself is not accepting the
>    money.
>
>
> *Protection of data *
>
>    - Data is held by Salesforce, I don't foresee issues with this.
>
>
> *Because time is of the essence in making a decision on this and going
> forward with the contract (we need to have a full 3 months to implement and
> roll out, and need to plan for event registrations in 2014 as well as
> memberships with the new membership model) - I am adding this for a vote on
> Monday's board meeting.  This is included in the budget, but even if the
> budget isn't finalized Monday it is critical for the operations team to
> have a decision on this.*
>
> *Sarah*
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 5:50 AM, Fabio Cerullo <fcerullo at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> Sarah,
>>
>> I've checked the tool and indeed looks impressive. There are a few
>> questions that will appreciate your clarification:
>>
>> - Does the platform support internationalisation? Eg. Would members in
>> Asia/Latin America be able to use it?
>>
>> - Does it handle payments for conferences, memberships, etc? If so, is it
>> PCI-DSS certified to accept payments?
>>
>> - Eoin's point about escrow... would it be possible to pay in monthly
>> installments? This could limit our liability if they go busted.
>>
>> - Regarding the protection of our data... do they have an certications
>> such as ISO27001/SAS70?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Fabio
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Eoin <eoin.keary at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> If there is no escrow...
>>> Lets say we spend 40K and the service is terminated / company folds etc
>>> etc do we have any protection?
>>> Does the system have adequate protection of our data also? Security of
>>> our data? SLA/availability, access to our data if they company folds.
>>> These are common questions when outsourcing services to SaaS and COTS
>>> solutions.
>>>
>>> Eoin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5 December 2013 05:11, Seba <seba at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> Kate showed me this in New York, and it seems a really good fit for
>>>> owasp. I fully support this proposal.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Seba
>>>> On 04 Dec 2013 22:00, "Sarah Baso" <sarah.baso at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Board members -
>>>>>
>>>>> This came up briefly on Monday's budget call, but I wanted to provide
>>>>> some additional operational details on the portal that the staff would like
>>>>> to transition to in 2014.
>>>>>
>>>>> Details are available here:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/a/owasp.org/document/d/1yDTFCdmmZN3t732sqHTOFHMhQrXgUC46YbgDhGROcXM/edit
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally -  here is a short video demo put together by another
>>>>> organization about the portal:
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7s5j-i9BUU
>>>>>
>>>>> Info about Member Nation by Fonteva:
>>>>> http://www.fonteva.com/products/membernation/
>>>>>
>>>>> *Operational Notes:*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    - The transition to Member Nation is MUCH MORE than a new system
>>>>>    for membership and event registration, it is a community management
>>>>>    platform that will give us tools to assist with volunteer management and
>>>>>    recognition and a place for dynamic update of project and chapter related
>>>>>    data so we can gather metrics and run reports.  It will also be a one stop
>>>>>    shop for community members to manage all their information membership,
>>>>>    event, chapters, projects, volunteer and other ways they interact with
>>>>>    OWASP.
>>>>>    - The critical points are that in order to implement as smooth a
>>>>>    transition as possible, we would like to have a 3 month roll out plan
>>>>>    (starting no later than January 1) to be completed by end of Q1 when our 2
>>>>>    year contract with cvent expires.  Additionally, I know there were some
>>>>>    points of frustration and lack of communication in the move from Regonline
>>>>>    to Cvent a couple year ago, so the more time we have to plan and work on
>>>>>    the roll out plan, the better.
>>>>>    - The OWASP Staff will manage the set up of events and other
>>>>>    administration of the portal - and will receive training as part of our set
>>>>>    up costs. The portal does support various access controls and "roles" for
>>>>>    members of the community (i.e. chapter leader, project leader, event
>>>>>    planner).
>>>>>
>>>>> *Financial*
>>>>>
>>>>> There will be a one time set up cost of $45,689 and an ongoing annual
>>>>> portal user fee of $13,500 - so a total of $59,189 for the first
>>>>> year. This $13,5000 will significantly reduce our annual costs for other
>>>>> registration and membership systems (estimated at $24856). And enable
>>>>> us to dramatically decrease our fees over the next several years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know any additional questions you have.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Sarah Baso
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Executive Director
>>>>> OWASP Foundation
>>>>>
>>>>> sarah.baso at owasp.org
>>>>> +1.312.869.2779
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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