[Owasp-board] Hamburg Meeting

Owasp eoin.keary at owasp.org
Mon Aug 12 20:06:56 UTC 2013


Lets stop being so self important.
Give a breakdown on the current story and say thanks to people for supporting the foundation.
Job done.

(I know I can be a pain, I don't to policies or red tape.)


Eoin Keary
Owasp Global Board
+353 87 977 2988


On 12 Aug 2013, at 20:28, Sarah Baso <sarah.baso at owasp.org> wrote:

> Sure... like I said, just let me know what you all prefer.  I think that more than 10 min in a lecture area is needed for community input though - so maybe a separate time/space for facetime with community members that want to have a discussion about OWASP or are particularly interested in details of the org?
> 
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> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>> You have a 30 minute slot, perhaps reduce your talk to 20 min and leave
>> 10 min for Q/A? Or perhaps START with Q/A?
>> 
>> Aloha,
>> Jim
>> 
>> > Ok - For the record - I am fine with doing the talk, but I also think we
>> > need to make sure there is an open community time at the conference for
>> > input to the board/community discussion.  Can we get that on the schedule
>> > and publish for whoever is interested?  We could have this instead of the
>> > presentation or in addition to... I am open.
>> >
>> > Sarah
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> +1 Eoin
>> >>
>> >>>  The welcome address should cover this and be done with it.
>> >>> Lets let Sarah so her bit and leave it at that.
>> >>> My €100000000000
>> >>>
>> >>> Eoin Keary
>> >>> Owasp Global Board
>> >>> +353 87 977 2988
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 12 Aug 2013, at 17:46, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Agree 100% with what Tom said here.  Board talks are boring and forcing
>> >> people to sit through a Board Keynote when they could be listening to some
>> >> industry luminary is just plain mean.  Carve out one session and if people
>> >> want to hear the Board talk about where we are and where we are going, then
>> >> they will attend.  No offense, but my guess is that it will be a nearly
>> >> empty room.  Not because people don't care about OWASP, but rather, because
>> >> people are there to be educated on threats and defenses, not on the state
>> >> of the non-profit.  If you do a good job of being open from the beginning,
>> >> then everything you say in these sessions will just be repetitive anyway.
>> >>  My $0.02.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ~josh
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Tom Brennan - OWASP <tomb at owasp.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>> 2 cents -- I concur that  2013 Q1 and Q2 by unified agreement and vote
>> >> radically adjusted the operation of OWASP Foundation globally. This move
>> >> has allowed us to move away from operational day-to-day tasks FINALLY!
>> >> Further, at each of the (4) annual AppSec events for the community to learn
>> >> about the progress, metrics and updates that are going on we do not need a
>> >> "board keynote" session rather a session on the schedule that is attended
>> >> by those that want to understand "where we are… where we are going" and
>> >> where we need additional firepower.  If a energized member of the board
>> >> member is in attendance fantastic; the more energy the better!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> To the point raised if the OWASP Board should hold "private meetings"
>> >> I encourage everyone to review as best practice;
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> - Should the board hold executive sessions
>> >>>>>
>> >> http://www.blueavocado.org/content/should-board-hold-executive-sessions
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -Ten Myths About Nonprofit Board
>> >>>>> http://www.blueavocado.org/node/663
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> For all of you that are traveling to Germany, safe travels,  I look
>> >> forward to seeing everyone via video conference.  The meeting may actually
>> >> be very quick considering there is no agenda posted @
>> >> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Board_Meetings -- Note that there
>> >> are many open items from 2013 past meetings that the face-to-face should
>> >> address as the adhoc agenda
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Semper Fi,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Tom Brennan CISSP, C|EH
>> >>>>> International Board of Directors
>> >>>>> OWASP Foundation
>> >>>>> (e) tomb at owasp.org
>> >>>>> (t) 973-202-0122
>> >>>>> (w) www.owasp.org
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Don't miss AppSecUSA 2013 Summit / Conference in Time Square NYC, Nov
>> >> 18th-21st details: http://www.appsecusa.org
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> P.S. - The OWASP Mascot "WASPY" was a BIG HIT raising visibility in
>> >> addition to our energized staff and volunteers in attendance for the
>> >> mission hope he makes an appearance at OWASP Germany!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> <WASPY.png>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Yep, I suggest that Sarah and staff give the talk on statistics. I
>> >> suggest only one speaker (for the most part) since the time slot is brief.
>> >> This talk as it stands today is about operations.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> If we were going to do a "board talk" we should not be talking about
>> >> operations since it's no longer our wheelhouse. Board should be talking
>> >> about vision, which we are still evolving.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> So perhaps change "board talk" to "staff talk" for Germany and
>> >> beyond. I think it's good to continue de-focusing on the board and focus
>> >> more in terms of putting our staff "up front".
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Also, Seba was talking about the closed board meeting, not the board
>> >> talk. I think we are mixing topics here Eoin.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> Jim Manico
>> >>>>>> @Manicode
>> >>>>>> (808) 652-3805
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:12 AM, Owasp <eoin.keary at owasp.org> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> +1
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> (Says he who gets little response to any email or suggestion)....
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Again,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Sarah to present OWASP preso. Maybe with Kate if she's there?
>> >>>>>>> It's not a board address anymore, rather an executive debrief..
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Eoin Keary
>> >>>>>>> Owasp Global Board
>> >>>>>>> +353 87 977 2988
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 12 Aug 2013, at 16:06, Seba <seba at owasp.org> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I assume the room is only big enough for us.
>> >>>>>>>> Can't we simply open up the conference call to everybody who is
>> >> interested in participating?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> regards
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Seba
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> I'm not happy with closed meetings for our open organization. I
>> >> suggest we have a private section (first few hours) where we can discuss
>> >> personnel and other issues that require privacy, and open up the rest.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>> Jim Manico
>> >>>>>>>> @Manicode
>> >>>>>>>> (808) 652-3805
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 2:48 AM, Michael Coates <
>> >> michael.coates at owasp.org> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> This will be the rare closed meeting. We will however publish the
>> >> agenda and results of our discussion.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> In addition we will hold an open board discussion session later in
>> >> the week for anyone that would like to chat.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> -Michael
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>> Michael Coates | OWASP | @_mwc
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> Is the OWASP board meeting at OWASP Germany an open meeting that
>> >> other
>> >>>>>>>>> members of our community may attend?
>> >>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>> Jim Manico
>> >>>>>>>>> @Manicode
>> >>>>>>>>> (808) 652-3805
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