[Owasp-board] Organizational Change and the OWASP Staff

Michael Coates michael.coates at owasp.org
Mon Apr 15 23:48:35 UTC 2013


Of course. Open to chat with everyone.

Let me know a few times that work for you all.

-Michael


--
Michael Coates | OWASP | @_mwc



On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Samantha Groves
<samantha.groves at owasp.org>wrote:

> Thank you for your support and apology, Michael. However, if we are to
> discuss this over the phone, I feel it is only fair that Kelly and Alison
> be involved as well. We all helped draft this letter to the board with our
> concerns, and I wouldn't feel right talking about this without including
> them in the discussion. How would you feel about that?
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> SG
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Michael Coates <michael.coates at owasp.org>wrote:
>
>> Samantha,
>>
>> I'm sorry to hear that there was confusion. I'd like to work with you to
>> understand the specific items that you mentioned so we can be sure to
>> address those items moving forward.
>>
>> Through this process we specifically wanted to make sure our operations
>> team felt looped in. I spoke with Kate before the board meeting where the
>> position was proposed and voted upon and also ensured that the announcement
>> of Sarah accepting this new role was first sent to the operations team
>> before we sent it publicly. You definitely have my apology if there was
>> still an element of feeling "out of the loop" as it was certainly not
>> intended.
>>
>> Would you be free in the next few days to chat over skype on this item?
>> While we could continue over email, it seems that a quick chat is usually
>> much more effective to talk through any concerns.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Coates | OWASP | @_mwc
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Samantha Groves <
>> samantha.groves at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>>>  Dear Michael & Board Members,
>>>
>>> Thank you for taking the time to let us know about the organizational
>>> change that is set to occur within the operations team and the OWASP
>>> foundation as a whole. We are very happy Sarah was chosen for the ED role
>>> as we feel she is a great candidate that all stakeholders will agree, is
>>> the best choice for this position.
>>>
>>> However, we feel it is important we inform you of our discomfort in the
>>> manner in which this change was handled. We feel that the announcement of
>>> the new director role on the Leaders list gave the impression that this
>>> position would be open to the public for applicants. This really gives off
>>> a deceptive undertone as we now realize that this position is, in fact,
>>> already filled. Moreover, a member of the board lead the community to
>>> believe that the staff was consulted before this new role was created. This
>>> gives the community the impression that the board, at the very least, asked
>>> for our thoughts on the idea before the announcement was made. This also
>>> gives off a deceptive undertone as Kelly, Alison nor I knew anything about
>>> the intention to create this new role. We would have supported Sarah
>>> unconditionally if you had asked us about your intentions.
>>>
>>> We are not asking to be consulted before decisions are made as we know
>>> it is not something you have to do as the board of directors. We are only
>>> asking that you show us the consideration and respect we feel we deserve as
>>> very hard working and dedicated staff members of the OWASP Foundation. This
>>> includes, giving us a heads up when our jobs and team dynamic will change
>>> dramatically. We feel this isn't too much to ask considering how dedicated
>>> we are, and how hard we work to serve the organization, the community, and
>>> the board itself.
>>>
>>> That being said, we will support and honor your decision as our board,
>>> and we will happily support Sarah with the transition into her new role.
>>> Thank you for taking the time to read our thoughts.
>>>
>>> Samantha, Kelly, and Alison
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *Samantha Groves, MBA*****
>>>
>>> *OWASP Project Manager*
>>>
>>> *
>>> *
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> Email: samantha.groves at owasp.org
>>>
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>>
>
>
> --
>
> *Samantha Groves, MBA*****
>
> *OWASP Project Manager*
>
> *
> *
>
> The OWASP Foundation
>
> Lisbon, Portugal
>
> Email: samantha.groves at owasp.org
>
> Skype: samanthahz
>
>
> OWASP Global Projects<https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Project>
>
> Book a Meeting with Me <http://goo.gl/mZXdZ>
>
> OWASP Contact US Form <http://owasp4.owasp.org/contactus.html>
>
> New Project Application Form<https://docs.google.com/a/owasp.org/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHZfWGhHZ0Z4UFFwZU42djBXcVVLSlE6MQ#gid=0>
>
>
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