[Owasp-board] [Committees-chairs] SANS

Jim Manico jim.manico at owasp.org
Tue May 1 21:40:46 UTC 2012


SANS tried to communicate with OWASP in the past, but I think we had
communication problems on both sides of the fence.

I think since we both have "fresh guard" we can re-open the conversation.

- Jim
> Helen's 2 cents: The subject of certification is very interesting indeed
> and long debated within OWASP. SANS is well established and has a large
> network. Their conferences are of quality but at a price. From the
> Membership Committee's prospective, networking, free conference will
> certainly add value to OWASP.  Is this the 1st time SANS approached
> OWASP?  OWASP and SANS overlap, or compete, in a way. It make sense for the
> two to corporate. As Eoin pointed out, the openness of the content is
> probably the key issue.
>
> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Eoin <eoin.keary at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>> Sounds interesting.
>>
>> Questions initially I have are:
>>
>> Who controls the content?
>>
>> Shall the content/examination be open source?
>>
>> We did say that organisations can build a certification "based on OWASP"
>> but OWASP would not have an "OWASP certification".
>>
>>
>> Aloha :)
>>
>> -ek
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1 May 2012 09:44, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> SANS has offered to build an OWASP certification and give a percentage
>>> of the proceeds to OWASP. They already have a GWEB certification that
>>> could serve as a base for the program.
>>>
>>> SANS has also offered to allow OWASP chapters to meet at it's
>>> conferences around the world, lets folks attend OWASP meetings for free
>>> (of course), serve drinks, and otherwise back off no-strings-attached.
>>>
>>> SANS is of course a for-profit commercial enterprise.
>>>
>>> Frank Kim, Denis Kirby and Jason Lam are the folks who run the SANS
>>> AppSec program and made this offer to OWASP. They feel it's of value to
>>> SANS just to have OWASP folks be aware that SANS exists, and they can
>>> help the community at the same time.
>>>
>>> I've known Frank and Jason for some thing and think they are good eggs.
>>> Worth discussing...
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jim Manico
>>>
>>> Connections Committee Chair
>>> Cheatsheet Series Product Manager
>>> OWASP Podcast Producer/Host
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Eoin Keary
>> OWASP Global Board Member (Vice Chair)
>>
>> https://twitter.com/EoinKeary
>>
>>
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-- 
Jim Manico

Connections Committee Chair
Cheatsheet Series Product Manager
OWASP Podcast Producer/Host

jim at owasp.org
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