[Owasp-board] Free OWASP Top 10 CBT

Eoin Keary eoin.keary at owasp.org
Fri Aug 17 17:27:40 UTC 2012


Thanks Jim,
I believe this would go against our values. We cant assist an organisation
generate leads or any commercial endeavour.


On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:

> Board,
>
> Nish is releasing an OWASP Top Ten CBT that is not an open license but is
> free for folks to use - if they register for the site for lead generation
> for Nish's company.
>
> He wants to use "OWASP-all" to announce this.
>
> Although this is good work from Nish, I do not think OWASP wants to
> support commercial endeavors like this via OWASP-all or other OWASP email
> lists.
>
> Nish asked me to bring this to the board, so here we are.
>
> --
> Jim Manico
> (808) 652-3805
>
> On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:15 AM, "Bhalla, Nishchal" <nish at securitycompass.com>
> wrote:
>
> I do understand where you are coming from “not for profit corporation” and
> appreciate that. But I guess we disagree on the why it is helpful for the
> community. If it is not something that you want to send I understand it
> since you are on the board.
>
>
>
> I would have definitely liked to send it to atleast the leaders if not to
> all so that people can decide if they decide not to view it, they don’t
> fill in the information. That is why it is open to the public.
>
>
>
> *Nish Bhalla*
>
> *Founder *
>
> *SC: Security Compass | SDE: SD Elements*
>
> * *
>
> *p:  *+1 (888) 777-2211  x101
>
> *m:* +1 (732) 614-1020
>
> *t:*  @securitycompass @sdelements
>
>
>
> *www.securitycompass.com | www.sdelements.com*
>
>
>
> *From:* Jim Manico [mailto:jim.manico at owasp.org]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 17, 2012 1:13 PM
> *To:* Bhalla, Nishchal
> *Cc:* Sarah Baso
> *Subject:* Re: Free OWASP Top 10 CBT
>
>
>
> Nish,
>
>
>
> I do not support using OWASP-all to assist you with lead generation.
>
>
>
> I think you are missing the point of a 501c3 not for profit corporation.
>
>
>
> Our mission is to serve the community. We need to keep commercial
> interests at bay.
>
>
>
> If you want to make the content available for free under an open license
> let me know.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Jim Manico
>
> (808) 652-3805
>
>
> On Aug 17, 2012, at 9:55 AM, "Bhalla, Nishchal" <nish at securitycompass.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
>
>
>
> Would love to say yes, but I don’t think we can currently. I think
> currently we do want to have it for the public through our website for
> leads. I do think it is very relavant to everyone on owasp list because it
> is free and all we are getting is their contact info. If you can please
> bring it to the board, I would really appreciate it.
>
>
>
> Nish.
>
>
>
> *Nish Bhalla*
>
> *Founder *
>
> *SC: Security Compass | SDE: SD Elements*
>
> * *
>
> *p:  *+1 (888) 777-2211  x101
>
> *m:* +1 (732) 614-1020
>
> *t:*  @securitycompass @sdelements
>
>
>
> *www.securitycompass.com | www.sdelements.com*
>
>
>
> *From:* Jim Manico [mailto:jim.manico at owasp.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 16, 2012 6:19 PM
> *To:* Bhalla, Nishchal
> *Cc:* Sarah Baso
> *Subject:* Re: Free OWASP Top 10 CBT
>
>
>
> Then this is commercial, not pure OWASP. You need to be fully free and
> open to be pure OWASP in a way that merits use of the OWASP list.
>
>
>
> Want to bring this to the board? I respect if you do.
>
>
>
> Nish, OWASP is a 501c3 not for profit. As a OWASP volunteer you have an
> ethical duty to put your business interest aside and focus on support of
> the community. :)
>
>
>
> Would you be interested in releasing this project under a open
> source/content license like ShareAlike?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Jim Manico
>
> VP, Security Architecture
>
> WhiteHat Security
>
> (808) 652-3805
>
>
> On Aug 16, 2012, at 3:09 PM, "Bhalla, Nishchal" <nish at securitycompass.com>
> wrote:
>
> Yes users need to register, it is part of our marketing. It is
> freecbt.securitycompass.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From*: Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org>
> *To*: Bhalla, Nishchal
> *Sent*: Thu Aug 16 17:07:05 2012
> *Subject*: Re: Free OWASP Top 10 CBT
>
> What OWASP URL is this project hosted under? Is it free and open? Do users
> need to register?
>
> --
>
> Jim Manico
>
> (808) 652-3805
>
>
> On Aug 16, 2012, at 2:30 PM, "Bhalla, Nishchal" <nish at securitycompass.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hey Jim,
>
>
>
> Hope things are going well. We recently released our OWASP Top 10 CBTs and
> I wanted to send it to all at owasp and wondered if you can help me with
> that. I don’t want to spam them across and get dinged for it like the
> “Securitybyte cross post” thus am trying to figure out who I should be
> asking to get this posted.
>
>
>
> Nish.
>
>
>
> *Nish Bhalla*
>
> *Founder *
>
> *SC: Security Compass | SDE: SD Elements*
>
> * *
>
> *p:  *+1 (888) 777-2211  x101
>
> *m:* +1 (732) 614-1020
>
> *t:* @securitycompass, @sdelements
>
>
>
> *www.securitycompass.com | www.sdelements.com*
>
>
>
> “Free OWASP Training here: http://freecbt.securitycompass.com/>
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