[Owasp-board] Information about OWASP China & SecZone
sarah.baso at owasp.org
Wed Nov 23 20:17:04 UTC 2011
Setting up a mirror or something like that is on China's "wish list" from
the chapters workshop. There is a lot of interest there to get more engaged
in OWASP projects and do translation but they just don't have access right
now to the info. So, after the upgrades I would support it moving to the
top of the list:)
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 23, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Matt Tesauro <mtesauro at gmail.com> wrote:
Actually, I had no idea that was the case. I hadn't seen
www.owasp.org.cnuntil earlier today. I also had no idea that the
great firewall of China
was blocking www.owasp.org
Perhaps after the infrastructure upgrades (e.g. move to Rackspace cloud
hosting + Akamai) the situation will be better for OWASP China. If not we
can investigate providing China a way to mirror the www.owasp.org wiki.
Something to consider.
-- Matt Tesauro
OWASP Board Member
OWASP WTE Project Lead
http://AppSecLive.org - Community and Download site
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Sarah Baso <sarah.baso at owasp.org> wrote:
> Matt -
> You may realize this already, but http://www.owasp.org.cn/ is the local
> OWASP page for OWASP China because they are not able to access the wiki.
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Matt Tesauro <matt.tesauro at owasp.org>wrote:
>> Interesting that SecZone has a link on their page to
>> and what Google Translate thinks of that site:
>> -- Matt Tesauro
>> OWASP Board Member
>> OWASP WTE Project Lead
>> http://AppSecLive.org - Community and Download site
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> That would be http://www.seczone.org/
>>> 2011/11/23 Sarah Baso <sarah.baso at owasp.org>:
>>> > Kate -
>>> > Here is I have learned about OWASP China and its "parent organization"
>>> > SecZone.
>>> > In China, OWASP is not a stand-alone legal entity. Instead, a
>>> non-profit was
>>> > formed with the name Security Zone (SecZone) to handle the OWASP
>>> > Additionally, Ivy Zhang is a full time employee of SecZone who, from my
>>> > understanding, is paid to handle all things OWASP-related (OWASP China
>>> > chapters, projects, and conference). So, they have a full time
>>> > dedicated to OWASP. That being said, the organization of SecZone is
>>> not just
>>> > OWASP - it is also an organization that promotes and facilitates
>>> > security research.
>>> > Here is more information on the organization:
>>> > www.seczone.org.cn
>>> > >From Ivy, I have attached the registration certification, tax
>>> > and Organization code certificate. Ivy has translated the registration
>>> > certification as follows and I have asked for a translation of the
>>> other 2
>>> > documents.
>>> > Non-enterprise Unit Registration Certification
>>> > Issuing authority: Bureau of Civil Affairs in Shenzhen Municipal
>>> > Issuing Date: Dec 7th, 2010
>>> > Expiring Date: Dec 7th, 2014
>>> > Name: Shenzhen Open Source Internet Security Research Center(Translated
>>> > according to the Chinese
>>> > meaning. Its english name is Security Zone, shorted as Seczone.)
>>> > Address: Room 1912, CEC Information Building East,No.1 Xinwen Road,
>>> > Shenzhen,518034, PRC.
>>> > Legal representative: Zhenhua Wan(Rip Torn)
>>> > Registered capital: RMB 50,000
>>> > Unit in Charge:Shenzhen Science and Technology Association
>>> > Business Range: internet security research, implementing internet
>>> > benchmark, making internet security standards in China.
>>> > About SecZone (English translation): Internet security research center
>>> > focused on cutting-edge Internet security technology research. Our
>>> > is to introduce, absorb, the purpose of innovation, constantly
>>> > domestic and foreign newest and most professional security technology,
>>> > innovation applied to the various domestic industries, to promote
>>> > Internet security technology.
>>> > Internet Security Research Centre for the industry's leading security
>>> > vendors and service providers to provide a neutral test security
>>> > and solutions, businesses can securely over the Internet Research
>>> > analysis needs to choose their own products and solutions
>>> > From my perspective, if SecZone is a third party for handling money in
>>> > China, this isn't necessarily a problem... but I think we need to
>>> > investigate a bit more about the operation of things. Also, I think
>>> > should be more transparency about how they are running things. Ivy
>>> said at
>>> > the chapter leaders workshop that it is not possible for OWASP to
>>> become a
>>> > legal entity in China, and while I am not necessarily disagreeing, I
>>> > like some insight into why this is. Also, I think we should learn
>>> > SecZone and where their funding comes from.
>>> > Ivy has told me that no membership fees have been collected by people
>>> > involved in OWASP China, but next year SecZone would like to start
>>> > for people who will pay for memberships (as we handle memberships
>>> > However, they will need to process the memberships in China through
>>> > and keep the money there. Also, they have questions about whether our
>>> > liability insurance (or to what extent our insurance) applies to them.
>>> > know for purposes of the conference, we explicitly signed a contract
>>> > SecZone to handle finances:
>>> > Also, here are the documents I put together from the events in China
>>> > this month:
>>> > Report on AppSec Asia 2011 event:
>>> > Meeting minutes from Chapters
>>> > Workshop:
>>> > I think we should consider some sort of legal agreement expressly
>>> > what we (OWASP Foundation - US) are agreeing to and authorizing
>>> SecZone to
>>> > handle on our behalf. Additionally, if Ivy IS exclusively handling
>>> > things in China, maybe we can find a better way to integrate her with
>>> > operations team?
>>> > Ivy, and the leaders of OWASP China also are considering how to
>>> > their OWASP Chapter(s) within China. Right now they exist as one big
>>> > chapter consisting of mainland China (Hong Kong has its own chapter).
>>> > would like to break this up into possibly 5 different cities, but are
>>> > on the best way to structure this... the two options seem to be:
>>> > 1. Instead of 1 OWASP China-Mainland Chapter, we would have 5 smaller
>>> > chapters such as OWASP Beijing Chapter, OWASP City 2 Chapter, etc.
>>> > chapters would all exist in the same flat structure as the other OWASP
>>> > Chapters throughout the world.
>>> > 2. OWASP China - Mainland continues to exist as a country-wide "board"
>>> > oversees the smaller Chinese sub-chapters. This is slightly
>>> > more hierarchical and apparently is the structure used in India (and
>>> > is also considering it). The local chapters have leaders/boards and
>>> then a
>>> > national level board would resolve disputes and make other decisions.
>>> > Right now, option #2 is the preference of OWASP China - but they are
>>> open to
>>> > suggestion from us (or the Chapter Committee).
>>> > This is quite a bit of new information for me, and I expect for others
>>> > well. I am not sure what our next steps are but at a minimum, I think
>>> > is more information to be gathered to help us understand the full
>>> scope of
>>> > relationships and how we can better work together with them.
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Sarah
>>> > --
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>>> > OWASP Global Conference Committee
>>> > OWASP Global Chapter Committee
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>>> > skype: sarah.baso
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