[Owasp-board] Barter-In-Trade / Wiki Changes
tomb at owasp.org
Wed Nov 23 17:55:16 UTC 2011
I like that -- we should also list what the barter in trade is. The
other ones we know are 5k as well as other intangibles as well. Topic
for next meeting.
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Dave Wichers <dave.wichers at owasp.org> wrote:
> I think the actual original separation was not discussed with the board
> either. There was just a little bit of chatter on the leaders list.
> The way it separated things out it actually, in my opinion, made the barter
> in trade members of OWASP look like 2nd class citizens when in fact, we
> should be encouraging that probably even more than simply asking for
> organizations to become paid members. Many of the barter in trade agreements
> are far more valuable to OWASP than a simple $5K contribution. I would
> rather have companies contributing lots of their employees time to OWASP
> projects than get $5K from them. That's far more valuable and something we
> should strongly encourage, not discourage.
> If you insist on keeping them separate I think we should instead list them
> first in the list, rather than after the paid members to recognize them for
> their frequently more valuable contribution that simply paying an annual
> membership fee.
> p.s. Here is some previous discussion on this point from Jeff, Jim, Tom:
> I think the point is that we DO want total transparency, AND we should not
> separate BIT membership or make it appear less valuable to OWASP.
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org>
> Date: Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 3:04 PM
> Subject: What did you do today?
> To: Jeff Williams <jeff.williams at owasp.org>
> Cc: "owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org" <owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org>
> I've been one of the folks screaming for financial transparency and
> accountability. In this case I think that Jeff is "right on". If the
> board or whatever appropriate body makes the call to support a trade,
> then that assistance is just as valuable as cash and that support
> deserves equal standing in OWASP.
> With Respect,
> - Jim Manico
> On Jul 30, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Jeff Williams <jeff.williams at owasp.org> wrote:
>> I totally agree with transparency but not with separation on the front
> page. Do you feel that BIT members are less important to OWASP? I think
> they are more important and we should encourage this.
> Tom even indicates:
>>>> Salesforce there was a $15k annual contract negotiated and Rackspace and
>>>> Akamai are in progress and will be posted shortly.
> Do you think that this barter in trade agreements are LESS valuable than
> corporate membership? I don't this so. (Dave)
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Tom Brennan
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:29 AM
> To: OWASP Foundation Board List
> Cc: Kelly Santalucia
> Subject: [Owasp-board] Barter-In-Trade / Wiki Changes
> Working on another promotional agreement for the good of OWASP with
> http://pentestmag.com/brand-new-web-app-pentesting/ to provide full page
> OWASP Foundation ad's for 2012. This will be a Barter In Trade arrangement
> like we did with CMP Media/Blackhat and have listed with others (Rackspace,
> Akamai etc..)
> I am concerned however that changes to the membership page were made by Dave
> Revision as of 13:07, November 8, 2011 by Wichers to eliminate the
> designation of Barter in Trade Memberships vs. Paid Memberships as they are
> very different things and infact provide a transparent and basic way of
> identification of the supporters involvement.
> These changes were not discussed with the board or membership committee -
> they should be rolled back.
> Lets add this as a discussion topic for Mondays' next working board meeting
> and all organizations that we have a barter in trade agreement with should
> have a invoice/agreement to back them up. It is also a tax requirement
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