[Owasp-board] VOTE Request - OWASP Europe Foundation

Jeff Williams jeff.williams at owasp.org
Mon May 16 19:22:13 UTC 2011

I think the guiding principle should be that we set up as few of these as possible.  That is, we should try to get by with a minimum amount as the hassle factor is quite likely to grow exponentially.  In this case, the benefits seem clear so I support it.




From: owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org [mailto:owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Dave Wichers
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 11:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [Owasp-board] VOTE Request - OWASP Europe Foundation


Yes – I’m OK with this.


From: owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org [mailto:owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Seba
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 1:41 AM
To: OWASP Foundation Board List; Kate Hartmann
Subject: [Owasp-board] VOTE Request - OWASP Europe Foundation




I have not seen enough positive reactions on my previous request concerning the setup of an European legal entity.


To gain traction and to have OWASP Europe started by AppSecEU, I need you to vote now (deadline Tuesday 10-May EOB).


I ask you to vote on the principle if Yes/No you support the startup of an European OWASP Foundation.


Benefits are:

· Ease of payments (IBAN-BIC numbers) within the Euro zone (less accounting overhead, less exchange rate risk exposure, no paypal fees, faster cash-in)

· OWASP deducting / avoiding VAT in the EU (savings on chapter/conferences/summit costs)

· EU people possibly being able to tax-deduct donations to an EU non-profit entity (extra revenue)

· Being able to create EU standard invoices in Euro's (less accounting overhead, faster cash-in)

· Potentially tap into EU/governmental budgets (extra revenue)

· Less hassle to hire EU employees/contractors (less overhead, better social protection for employees)

· Providing a governance umbrella for EU chapters/events 


Upon your approval I will initiate the EU Legal entity in Belgium.

This will cost:

*	€ 500 for translating the Bylaws in English (takes 3 working days)
*	€ 1000 for a notary to make them official. (takes 10 working days)

We can get it done by AppSecEU, but we have to decide now.

Potential VAT deduction of the AppSecEU costs (21% on estimated € 10000) already covers the startup costs.


Yearly book-keeper cost (quarterly VAT and one yearly fiscal declaration) will be about € 850 / year.

We can set up Alison with an EU software package to create and follow-up on EU invoices/ costs.


Can you send us your vote and/or questions by Tuesday 10-May EOB?





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