[Owasp-board] VOTE Request - OWASP Europe Foundation

Tom Brennan tomb at owasp.org
Mon May 9 20:46:31 UTC 2011


If we are global professional association with members and conferences and people contributing IP from around the world yes.  

The models of HOW is the fun part.

Who are the leaders of Norway and France lets loop them into this discussion.


On May 9, 2011, at 4:18 PM, Seba wrote:

> Tom,
> 
> The chapters in Norway and France have been set up explicitly to cover their country.
> I can look into this, but it comes down to the same question: do we in principle support the startup of an European OWASP Foundation?
> 
> The logistics of starting it up in Belgium or re-using the Norway/France chapter is the next step.
> The board and committee chairs will be involved in every next step, of course.
> 
> --Seba
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org> wrote:
> If we can't leverage the France or Norway chapter's incorporation.  Have we look at that yet as EU ?
> 
> 
> 
> On May 9, 2011, at 1:40 AM, Seba <seba at owasp.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have not seen enough positive reactions on my previous request concerning the setup of an European legal entity.
>> 
>> To gain traction and to have OWASP Europe started by AppSecEU, I need you to vote now (deadline Tuesday 10-May EOB).
>> 
>> I ask you to vote on the principle if Yes/No you support the startup of an European OWASP Foundation.
>> 
>> Benefits are:
>> 	• Ease of payments (IBAN-BIC numbers) within the Euro zone (less accounting overhead, less exchange rate risk exposure, no paypal fees, faster cash-in)
>> 	• OWASP deducting / avoiding VAT in the EU (savings on chapter/conferences/summit costs)
>> 	• EU people possibly being able to tax-deduct donations to an EU non-profit entity (extra revenue)
>> 	• Being able to create EU standard invoices in Euro's (less accounting overhead, faster cash-in)
>> 	• Potentially tap into EU/governmental budgets (extra revenue)
>> 	• Less hassle to hire EU employees/contractors (less overhead, better social protection for employees)
>> 	• Providing a governance umbrella for EU chapters/events 
>> 
>> Upon your approval I will initiate the EU Legal entity in Belgium.
>> This will cost:
>> 	• € 500 for translating the Bylaws in English (takes 3 working days)
>> 	• € 1000 for a notary to make them official. (takes 10 working days)
>> We can get it done by AppSecEU, but we have to decide now.
>> Potential VAT deduction of the AppSecEU costs (21% on estimated € 10000) already covers the startup costs.
>> 
>> Yearly book-keeper cost (quarterly VAT and one yearly fiscal declaration) will be about € 850 / year.
>> We can set up Alison with an EU software package to create and follow-up on EU invoices/ costs.
>> 
>> Can you send us your vote and/or questions by Tuesday 10-May EOB?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> --Seba
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