[Owasp-board] Fwd: Yeap, it's time to say goodbye

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Sun Jan 30 18:23:14 UTC 2011

In last 18 months we have lost - Leo, Yiannis, MikeB, Pravir, Justin Derry, Christian, we are down to 71 active chapters and others have expressed issues and on the edge including Brad Causey, Lorna.  The Summit comes at a good time, but we need to address common issues/complaints here of the association. 

Dinis can you pull numbers of how many and who are the attendees of the 2011 summit were also attendees at the 2008 summit. The core group is what I am looking for w/emails a +

On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:57 PM, dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:

> As per Leo's answer below, I'm not one of the vampires (nor are the receipients of that email) 
> Dinis Cruz
> Begin forwarded message:
>> From: Leonardo Cavallari Militelli <leonardocavallari at gmail.com>
>> Date: 30 January 2011 14:41:56 GMT
>> To: dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org>
>> Subject: Re: Yeap, it's time to say goodbye
>> Hi Dinis,
>> Sure not. None of the recipients of that email are.
>> Can't say the same for other board members and other owapers that I know... and I don't need to cite names here as you might know who they are.
>> Just to let things clear, I have nothing against you Dinis, really. You are a great guy, clever (and fast :) ) mind and has a impressive power of persuasion. 
>> If you want to talk more about vampires, stacks ans silver bullets, ping me.
>> Leo
>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:43 PM, dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:
>> Hey Leonardo (just to you)
>> Do consider me to be one of those vampires?
>> Dinis Cruz
>> On 29 Jan 2011, at 19:42, Leonardo Cavallari Militelli
>> <leonardocavallari at gmail.com
>>  > wrote:
>> > Hello guys,
>> >
>> > I'm writing to let you know that I decided to quit my activities
>> > within OWASP as a projetct leader and GPC member.
>> >
>> > It took me a while to make up my mind, as I've been supporting OWASP
>> > since 2006, made some friends, learned a lot and helped many others
>> > too. This is not easy thought, but I agree with Tom on "GPC needs
>> > new blood".
>> >
>> > So, with all respect, 'd like to share you why I took this decision.:
>> >
>> > 1) Personal reasons: Last year, I build a family and that new
>> > situation is consuming the time I used to spent with OWASP. I know
>> > many of you have more than one kid at home and you know how this
>> > father's first year is time consuming.
>> > 2) Professional reasons: I set up my company 2 years ago and now
>> > things got on the wheels, I have a specialized team of 4 technical
>> > consultant but I have all other duties to care about. Again, another
>> > priority.
>> > 3) Last, but not least, my own values started to conflict with real
>> > OWASP values. After those episodes involving me (GPC misunderstood
>> > and AppSec Brazil 09), I could see and understand a little more
>> > deeper about the real values and not the idealistic one that we see
>> > at the Wiki and non-leaders lists. I don't want to upset anyone
>> > here, neither a flame war. In fact, I'm missing that feeling that I
>> > had in the past, with Dinis evangelizing every one around him and a
>> > small set of projects not so organized, but working and getting
>> > people really involved.
>> >
>> > So, I'll keep contributing off-line, with some translations and
>> > promoting OWASP to people around me, in order to rescue that
>> > feeling. I still do believe on OWASP Mission, but for now I'm not
>> > comfortable on have OWASP tattooed on me anymore. At least, for a
>> > while.
>> > If I can say, not only GPC needs new blood, but all OWASP needs it.
>> > And this will only happened when you can cut off the vampires that
>> > lies on the organization.
>> >
>> > I'd like to thank you everyone that supported me during all this
>> > years, specially Paulo.
>> > Gajo, gonna miss our Summit nights of soup and vinho do porto :)
>> >
>> > Best regards and good luck for all!
>> > Leo Cavallari
>> >
>> >
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