[Owasp-board] Fwd: Yeap, it's time to say goodbye

dinis cruz dinis.cruz at owasp.org
Sun Jan 30 17:57:20 UTC 2011

As per Leo's answer below, I'm not one of the vampires (nor are the
receipients of that email)

Dinis Cruz

Begin forwarded message:

*From:* Leonardo Cavallari Militelli <leonardocavallari at gmail.com>
*Date:* 30 January 2011 14:41:56 GMT
*To:* dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org>
*Subject:* *Re: Yeap, it's time to say goodbye*

Hi Dinis,
Sure not. None of the recipients of that email are.
Can't say the same for other board members and other owapers that I know...
and I don't need to cite names here as you might know who they are.

Just to let things clear, I have nothing against you Dinis, really. You are
a great guy, clever (and fast :) ) mind and has a impressive power of

If you want to talk more about vampires, stacks ans silver bullets, ping me.


On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:43 PM, dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:

> Hey Leonardo (just to you)
> Do consider me to be one of those vampires?
> Dinis Cruz
> On 29 Jan 2011, at 19:42, Leonardo Cavallari Militelli
> <leonardocavallari at gmail.com
>  > wrote:
> > Hello guys,
> >
> > I'm writing to let you know that I decided to quit my activities
> > within OWASP as a projetct leader and GPC member.
> >
> > It took me a while to make up my mind, as I've been supporting OWASP
> > since 2006, made some friends, learned a lot and helped many others
> > too. This is not easy thought, but I agree with Tom on "GPC needs
> > new blood".
> >
> > So, with all respect, 'd like to share you why I took this decision.:
> >
> > 1) Personal reasons: Last year, I build a family and that new
> > situation is consuming the time I used to spent with OWASP. I know
> > many of you have more than one kid at home and you know how this
> > father's first year is time consuming.
> > 2) Professional reasons: I set up my company 2 years ago and now
> > things got on the wheels, I have a specialized team of 4 technical
> > consultant but I have all other duties to care about. Again, another
> > priority.
> > 3) Last, but not least, my own values started to conflict with real
> > OWASP values. After those episodes involving me (GPC misunderstood
> > and AppSec Brazil 09), I could see and understand a little more
> > deeper about the real values and not the idealistic one that we see
> > at the Wiki and non-leaders lists. I don't want to upset anyone
> > here, neither a flame war. In fact, I'm missing that feeling that I
> > had in the past, with Dinis evangelizing every one around him and a
> > small set of projects not so organized, but working and getting
> > people really involved.
> >
> > So, I'll keep contributing off-line, with some translations and
> > promoting OWASP to people around me, in order to rescue that
> > feeling. I still do believe on OWASP Mission, but for now I'm not
> > comfortable on have OWASP tattooed on me anymore. At least, for a
> > while.
> > If I can say, not only GPC needs new blood, but all OWASP needs it.
> > And this will only happened when you can cut off the vampires that
> > lies on the organization.
> >
> > I'd like to thank you everyone that supported me during all this
> > years, specially Paulo.
> > Gajo, gonna miss our Summit nights of soup and vinho do porto :)
> >
> > Best regards and good luck for all!
> > Leo Cavallari
> >
> >
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