[Owasp-board] Meeting Today

Jim Manico jim.manico at owasp.org
Mon Dec 5 16:38:51 UTC 2011

Can we dial down "complete" sponsored travel for all but the most
active OWASP contributors? Or at least control those costs in some

Jim Manico
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On Dec 5, 2011, at 5:52 AM, Mark Bristow <mark.bristow at owasp.org> wrote:

> Eoin,
> Some comments re conferences inline:
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 6:34 AM, eoin keary <eoin.keary at owasp.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I can not make it to today's meeting unless you are willing to move it
>> either way by 1 hour.
>> Comments below are in relation to the spreadsheet in googledocs "2012
>> Budget"
>> Some, you may disagree with but, it is our job to challenge ad make robust
>> our strategy and financial position.
>> Expenditures:
>> Summit 2013 - $100K - Should this be in 2012 budget? I believe we need to do
>> additional fundraising to achieve this funding goal.
> The reason that the GCC put this into the 2012 budget is to amortize
> the losses of a summit over multiple years.  $100 was roughly "half"
> the expected funding needed for a 2013 summit.  Also note that the
> summit is being planed for Q1 of 2013 currently so there will be many
> expendatures actually dispensed in 2012.
> I agree that additional fundraising is needed.  Please see the three
> options I proposed @ USA. (sorry can't access google docs from the
> office) all of them include sponsorship projections however the nature
> of the summit will be a financial loss to the organization (and always
> has been) mainly due to the large number of sponsored travel
> arrangements that is key to summit success.
>> The current revenue stream is related to "keeping the lights on".
>> If we want a summit in 2013 I believe we should think of options to promote
>> the event and seek corporate sponsorhsip, starting this now means we have a
>> year to do it.
>> Do we pay for a 2013 summit from 2012 revenue?
>> We should should offer corporate members the option of sponsoring the summit
>> as part of the membership fee? (Say an extra $1000 guarantees them a ticket
>> to the event, this has obvious benefits for an organisation).
> This is one idea being entertained, however I would say $1000 is
> groosly undervaluing a sponsorship of the summit and no where near the
> types of funding needs we have.
>> We should offer individual members the option of donating to the summit when
>> signing up for membership (say $10 for a change to win a summit ticket for
>> OWASP Summit 2013).
> This is a cool idea.
>> We should approach the large corporates (IE, Goog, Moz, IBM etc) now via the
>> conferences committee (or board) to ask for summit support citing what was
>> achieved at the last summit and "how they can help change the face of
>> application security" by supporting such an event.
> We absolutely need to do this and I think having the board support
> this is important.
>> Connections committee:
>> I believe $21K for connections is very expensive? What did it cost last
>> year? $1000 per month for marketing seems rich unless such funds are
>> earmarked and there is a plan for it?
>> Membership Committee:
>> I think this budget needs to be increased given membership is a direct
>> revenue source. We need membership: corporate, individual, barter-in-trade,
>> the more the better and a strategy in getting more members and funding
>> behind this activity.
>> Conferences Committee:
>> Do we need $5K for cameras? Stats show that very few people look at recorded
>> events!! Sure AppsSec EU videos were not even released even thought
>> expensive transport costs for the equipment was paid for.
> The idea here was to expand our pool of cameras to make them available
> to smaller events while continuing to support our marquee events with
> inexpensive video capture.  This is also intended to look into
> additional equipment to allow live streaming.  This saves us tons of
> $$ as filming a single 3-4 track event costs more than $5000.  Also,
> some of the cameras we have need replacement supplies.
>> What does event sponsorship support do? why does it cost $10K. Sponsorship
>> is meant to make money!! :)
> This is to hire a part time resource to do support capture.  The plan
> is for this to be a net positive but we are in high need of a
> "marketing" person.
>> Should we continue to support loss making conferences? To what extent. Do we
>> have a cap of exposure?
> This was in my proposed budget as regional "loss-leader" budgets but
> did not make the final budget.  Now that some basic processes have
> been put in place (OCMS) the plan is to be more stringent with
> budgets, signature authorities, and expendatures next year.
>> Lets increase conference ticket fees and training by 10%
> Currently there is no way to implement this.  Event planners set their
> own pricing.
>> Chapters:
>> Should we consider a chapter "Summit Tax" which shall help fund the summit?
>> May chapters out there (including my one) have lots of money and don't seem
>> to spend it!!
>> Training:
>> I believe and after talking to Seba, We need to roll out a training roadshow
>> across USA/EU
>> This will work on the 40/60 split but can yield significant revenue for the
>> foundation. ($50K-$100K per region).
>> This is ala SANS model and needs to be considered.
>> Membership:
>> Lets increase membership by $10 and corporate membership fee by 10%!!
>> Industry is looking to increase corp membership by 10% ($18K) does the 2012
>> budget reflect this?
>> -ek
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