[Owasp-board] REQUEST FOR COMMENTS/IMPORTANT/ RE: [Owasp-google-hacking] [GPC] bing Port
Paulo Coimbra
paulo.coimbra at owasp.org
Sun Sep 5 21:57:19 UTC 2010
Brad,
If nobody else ultimately disagrees with us, may I suggest you contact
Christian again ASAP? I wouldn't know what to do if he contacted me asking
assistance to create a new project.
Thanks,
Paulo Coimbra,
<https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Main_Page> OWASP Project Manager
From: bradcausey at gmail.com [mailto:bradcausey at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Brad
Causey
Sent: domingo, 5 de Setembro de 2010 21:45
To: Paulo Coimbra; OWASP Foundation Board List; Dinis Cruz; Jason Li; Jeff
Williams; Leo Cavallari; Matt Tesauro; Pravir Chandra
Subject: Re: REQUEST FOR COMMENTS/IMPORTANT/ RE: [Owasp-google-hacking]
[GPC] bing Port
Hey Paulo,
I agree. I was suggesting that when he does, it would need to be a new
project.
I do not want him creating any new projects until we have closure.
Thank you for catching this!!
On 9/5/10, Paulo Coimbra <paulo.coimbra at owasp.org> wrote:
> Brad (and GPC & Board),
>
>
>
> I am writing you to ask you whether or not you are open to reconsider
> your decision regarding the permission you have given to Christian for
> him to create a new project.
>
>
>
> Without forgetting that everyone is innocent until the contrary is
> proven, in my view, until the Google Hacking Project's inquiry is
> finished, we shouldn't allow Christian to increase his OWASP
> responsibilities and/or engagement.
>
>
>
> For one thing, the permission for him to create a new project, in my
> view, is not coherent with our former decision to not consider his
> application to lead the ASVS until the GHP's inquiry is closed.
>
>
>
> For another, I might be wrong but honestly believe that Christian's
> behaviour is censurable and I am not sure if he currently has the
> conditions to lead any OWASP activities.
>
>
>
> In a nutshell, in my perspective, when dealing with the inquiry
> findings, we should address the following situations:
>
>
>
> - Christian's serious and false accusations that we were
> intentionally delaying the inquiry to ensure maximum damage to his
> reputation. In his own words: "(...) I have no doubt that the inquiry
> has been delayed so it will be twisted to ensure maximum damage to my
> reputation while OWASP attempts to distance itself from its lack of
> action during the entire lifetime of this project such as the
> continued removal from the OWASP Leaders List and recently marking my
> project inactive (not in September 2009 when requested) (...)",
>
>
>
> - Christian's lack of respect showed towards Sebastien which has
> motivated from him the following comment: 'After proposing to rename
> the Melbourne chapter mailing list from "Australia" to Melbourne and
> having an overall Australia Melbourne list, Christian reacted with
> insults and allegations',
>
>
>
> - Christian's refusal to act in conformity when was told by
Dinis
> the following: "(...) Finally, Christian, since we have marked the
> OWASP Google Hacking project as discontinued (see
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Google_Hacking_Project),
> I think it time that you dropped the tag "OWASP "Google Hacking"
> Project Lead
> - http://sn.im/owasp_google_hacking" from your email signature (...)",
>
>
>
> - Christian's long and repeated insistence (to me, also
> inexplicable and unbearable) on calling "trolls" to people who
> protested saying the project code was not available.
>
>
>
> Please let me know your thoughts.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Paulo Coimbra,
>
> <https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Main_Page> OWASP Project Manager
>
>
>
> From: owasp-google-hacking-bounces at lists.owasp.org
> [mailto:owasp-google-hacking-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of
> Brad Causey
> Sent: domingo, 5 de Setembro de 2010 04:34
> To: Christian Heinrich; Global Projects Committee;
> owasp-google-hacking at lists.owasp.org
> Subject: Re: [Owasp-google-hacking] [GPC] bing Port
>
>
>
> Christian,
>
>
>
> Please create a new project. Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
> On 9/3/10, Christian Heinrich <christian.heinrich at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> GPC,
>
>>
>
>> I have started porting
>
>> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Google_Hacking_Project
>
>> to bing
>
>>
>
>> Subsequently, I have created a new repository for this port at
>
>> http://dic.codeplex.com/ for the Proof of Concept which I intend to
>
>> have an Alpha release available towards the end of this year (i.e.
>
>> 2010).
>
>>
>
>> Can you please advise me if it is preferred to collapse existing
>
>> "Google Hacking" Project Name or to propose this a new project?
>
>>
>
>> I would prefer not to collapse the "Google Hacking" namespace as the
>
>> intent of this project is to advance the state of the art from
>
>> http://www.hackersforcharity.org/ghdb/ - rather I would prefer to
>
>> propose a new project.
>
>>
>
>> Please let me know your thoughts or if you have any alternatives to
>
>> consider?
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> --
>
>> Regards,
>
>> Christian Heinrich - http://www.owasp.org/index.php/user:cmlh
>
>> OWASP "Google Hacking" Project Lead -
>
>> http://sn.im/owasp_google_hacking
>
>> _______________________________________________
>
>> Global-projects-committee mailing list
>
>> Global-projects-committee at lists.owasp.org
>
>> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/global-projects-committee
>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
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>
>
>
> -Brad Causey
>
> CISSP, MCSE, C|EH, CIFI, CGSP
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