[Owasp-board] REQUEST FOR COMMENTS/IMPORTANT/ RE: [Owasp-google-hacking] [GPC] bing Port

Paulo Coimbra paulo.coimbra at owasp.org
Sun Sep 5 21:57:19 UTC 2010


Brad,

 

If nobody else ultimately disagrees with us, may I suggest you contact
Christian again ASAP? I wouldn't know what to do if he contacted me asking
assistance to create a new project.

 

Thanks,

 

Paulo Coimbra,

 <https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Main_Page> OWASP Project Manager

 

From: bradcausey at gmail.com [mailto:bradcausey at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Brad
Causey
Sent: domingo, 5 de Setembro de 2010 21:45
To: Paulo Coimbra; OWASP Foundation Board List; Dinis Cruz; Jason Li; Jeff
Williams; Leo Cavallari; Matt Tesauro; Pravir Chandra
Subject: Re: REQUEST FOR COMMENTS/IMPORTANT/ RE: [Owasp-google-hacking]
[GPC] bing Port

 

Hey Paulo,

 

I agree. I was suggesting that when he does, it would need to be a new
project.

 

I do not want him creating any new projects until we have closure.

 

Thank you for catching this!!

 

 

 

On 9/5/10, Paulo Coimbra <paulo.coimbra at owasp.org> wrote:

> Brad (and GPC & Board),

> 

> 

> 

> I am writing you to ask you whether or not you are open to reconsider 

> your decision regarding the permission you have given to Christian for 

> him to create a new project.

> 

> 

> 

> Without forgetting that everyone is innocent until the contrary is 

> proven, in my view, until the Google Hacking Project's inquiry is 

> finished, we shouldn't allow Christian to increase his OWASP 

> responsibilities and/or engagement.

> 

> 

> 

> For one thing, the permission for him to create a new project, in my 

> view, is not coherent with our former decision to not consider his 

> application to lead the ASVS until the GHP's inquiry is closed.

> 

> 

> 

> For another, I might be wrong but honestly believe that Christian's 

> behaviour is censurable and I am not sure if he currently has the 

> conditions to lead any OWASP activities.

> 

> 

> 

> In a nutshell, in my perspective, when dealing with the inquiry 

> findings, we should address the following situations:

> 

> 

> 

> -          Christian's serious and false accusations that we were

> intentionally delaying the inquiry to ensure maximum damage to his 

> reputation. In his own words: "(...) I have no doubt that the inquiry 

> has been delayed so it will be twisted to ensure maximum damage to my 

> reputation while OWASP attempts to distance itself from its lack of 

> action during the entire lifetime of this project such as the 

> continued removal from the OWASP Leaders List and recently marking my 

> project inactive (not in September 2009 when requested) (...)",

> 

> 

> 

> -          Christian's lack of respect showed towards Sebastien which has

> motivated from him the following comment:  'After proposing to rename 

> the Melbourne chapter mailing list from "Australia" to Melbourne and 

> having an overall Australia Melbourne list, Christian reacted with 

> insults and allegations',

> 

> 

> 

> -           Christian's refusal to act in conformity when was told by
Dinis

> the following: "(...) Finally, Christian, since we have marked the 

> OWASP Google Hacking project as discontinued (see 

> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Google_Hacking_Project), 

> I think it time that you dropped the tag "OWASP "Google Hacking" 

> Project Lead

> - http://sn.im/owasp_google_hacking" from your email signature (...)",

> 

> 

> 

> -          Christian's long and repeated insistence (to me, also

> inexplicable and unbearable) on calling "trolls" to people who 

> protested saying the project code was not available.

> 

> 

> 

> Please let me know your thoughts.

> 

> 

> 

> Thanks,

> 

> 

> 

> Paulo Coimbra,

> 

>  <https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Main_Page> OWASP Project Manager

> 

> 

> 

> From: owasp-google-hacking-bounces at lists.owasp.org

> [mailto:owasp-google-hacking-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of 

> Brad Causey

> Sent: domingo, 5 de Setembro de 2010 04:34

> To: Christian Heinrich; Global Projects Committee; 

> owasp-google-hacking at lists.owasp.org

> Subject: Re: [Owasp-google-hacking] [GPC] bing Port

> 

> 

> 

> Christian,

> 

> 

> 

> Please create a new project. Thanks!

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> On 9/3/10, Christian Heinrich <christian.heinrich at owasp.org> wrote:

> 

>> GPC,

> 

>> 

> 

>> I have started porting

> 

>> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Google_Hacking_Project

> 

>> to bing

> 

>> 

> 

>> Subsequently, I have created a new repository for this port at

> 

>> http://dic.codeplex.com/ for the Proof of Concept which I intend to

> 

>> have an Alpha release available towards the end of this year (i.e.

> 

>> 2010).

> 

>> 

> 

>> Can you please advise me if it is preferred to collapse existing

> 

>> "Google Hacking" Project Name or to propose this a new project?

> 

>> 

> 

>> I would prefer not to collapse the "Google Hacking" namespace as the

> 

>> intent of this project is to advance the state of the art from

> 

>> http://www.hackersforcharity.org/ghdb/ - rather I would prefer to

> 

>> propose a new project.

> 

>> 

> 

>> Please let me know your thoughts or if you have any alternatives to

> 

>> consider?

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> --

> 

>> Regards,

> 

>> Christian Heinrich - http://www.owasp.org/index.php/user:cmlh

> 

>> OWASP "Google Hacking" Project Lead -

> 

>> http://sn.im/owasp_google_hacking

> 

>> _______________________________________________

> 

>> Global-projects-committee mailing list

> 

>> Global-projects-committee at lists.owasp.org

> 

>> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/global-projects-committee

> 

>> 

> 

> 

> 

> --

> 

> Sent from my mobile device

> 

> 

> 

> -Brad Causey

> 

> CISSP, MCSE, C|EH, CIFI, CGSP

> 

> 

> 

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