[Owasp-board] London Training Expenses

Brennan - OWASP tomb at owasp.org
Sat Jun 5 21:27:26 UTC 2010


As a group we should all review and draft revisions to the bylaws and commit them for 2010+

http://www.owasp.org/images/0/0d/OWASP_ByLaws.pdf

Note the above is linked @  http://www.owasp.org/index.php/About_OWASP


On Jun 4, 2010, at 5:10 PM, dinis cruz wrote:

> The way I'm looking at this, is that we should make the OWASP board member action's independent from the chapters or conferences budgets (and decision making)
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> Since the Board member is one of the official ambassadors of OWASP and (has Jeff  has proposed in his last email, one with a LOT of duties and responsibilities when he attends ANY OWASP related event), we need to create a system where the board member has independence from the local chapter when deciding to attend a local event.
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> I think that it is critical for OWASP that the members of the board participate in as many OWASP events as possible, since, in addition to the good local Kudos and Karma that they bring to the event, it also allow us to keep our 'ears to the ground' and make sure that there is a very clear and open channel of communication between the OWASP community and the board.
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> A couple more scenarios:
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>   -  although I went to Ireland to do a presentation on the O2 Platform, I was also there as a Board member, and it was the positive energy, organisation capability and local dynamics that puts me now in the position to recommend (and fully support) Ireland for the organisation of the OWASP AppSec 2011.
>   - although Eoin came to London to do a presentation on the Code Review, he was also exposed to the Training model we are currently developing (which will allow him to help others to created similar events). But more importantly, me and Eoin spent quite a bit of time talking about the OWASP Commercial Services model, and it was through those conversations that the  proposed model emerged.
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> I think that tracking (and presenting to our community) the expenses of each individual Board member, will provide a good visibility on what we are doing. It will also help any new (future) board members to understand what is expected from them and what is their role. This is also part of the reason why we need to be more formal about the role of OWASP Board members.
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> Of course that we (as board members) should coordinate our trips so that we have maximum coverage (with minimum travel)
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> My proposed course of action is that we set the rule that the OWASP Board members can travel (at their discretion and at the OWASP-central-expense) to OWASP events and (in addition to Jeff's comments) have the duty to report (at least to the board but ideally to the owasp-leaders) what happened during that event and what ideas/recommendations they have for the future (this could be a blog post).
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> Finally, the OotM funds should be used by the OWASP leaders (not board members) and the discretionary budget that each board member has (up to 2500 USD per month) should be available (and reported) on top of any travel expenses.
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> Dinis Cruz
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> On 4 Jun 2010, at 22:43, Dave Wichers <dave.wichers at owasp.org> wrote:
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>> I don’t think I agree with this logic. If a local chapter puts on an event like this, why is the foundation paying to send speakers to it (unless we are using OotM for that, and I would support use of some of that money for this)? And I know each board member supposedly has a budget, and spending of that budget should be tracked, but it should be for their discretionary spending (if they have any), and not for them attending conferences or other events that they are invited to.
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>> As I said before, I think we should have each conference pay to bring one board member to that conference out of their budget, but I don’t think it’s the best use of the conference’s funds to pay for a gaggle of us to attend just to attend. Ultimately ‘their’ budget is OWASPs budget and we should be careful about how OWASP uses its funds.
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>> -Dave
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>> From: owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org [mailto:owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Eoin
>> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 9:17 AM
>> To: dinis cruz
>> Cc: OWASP Foundation Board List; alison.shrader at owasp.org
>> Subject: Re: [Owasp-board] London Training Expenses
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>> Fine by me,
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>> But I did not go over there as a board member but as the code review guide leader.
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>> The same as my chapter paid for you to come over and present O2 a few months back.
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>> On 4 June 2010 13:17, dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:
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>> Alison, can you threat these and all board member expenses seperately?
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>> The idea is that the board member's expenses should not be 'paid' by the local chapter (but instead covered by owasp-central)
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>> Actually, while you are at it, can you keep track of the amount spent by each board member (and report on it Quarterly)?
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>> Thanks
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>> Dinis Cruz
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>> On 4 Jun 2010, at 12:48, Eoin <eoin.keary at owasp.org> wrote:
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>> Alison,
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>> attached are expenses to be deducted from the london training (28/5/2010) and refunded to me.
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>> I believe you have my bank details? If not, please ask.
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>> Taxi: £30 GBP
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>> Taxi: £28 GBP
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>> Taxi: €60 Euro
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>> Taxi: €55 Euro
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>> = €70 (2 UK taxis) + €60 + €55
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>> Total €185 to be expensed
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>> EY funded my flight expenses (€300)
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>> Thanks,
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>> Eoin
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>> -- 
>> Eoin Keary
>> OWASP Global Board Member
>> OWASP Code Review Guide Lead Author
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>> https://twitter.com/EoinKeary
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>> <E Keary Receipts.pdf>
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>> -- 
>> Eoin Keary
>> OWASP Global Board Member
>> OWASP Code Review Guide Lead Author
>> 
>> Sent from my i-Transmogrifier
>> http://asg.ie/
>> https://twitter.com/EoinKeary
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