[Owasp-board] FW: leaders list

Thu Jul 29 15:25:58 UTC 2010

Board, GPC,

For your information.

Thanks,

Paulo Coimbra,

 <https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Main_Page> OWASP Project Manager

From: Laurence Casey [mailto:larry.casey at owasp.org] 
Sent: quinta-feira, 29 de Julho de 2010 16:23
To: Kate Hartmann; 'Paulo Coimbra'
Cc: dinis.cruz at owasp.org
Subject: RE: leaders list

Here are the lists he is on.

./find_member Christian.heinrich at owasp.org

Christian.heinrich at owasp.org found in:

     noneactivelist

christian.heinrich at owasp.org found in:

     owasp-singapore

     global_membership_committee

     owasp-leaders

     owasp-florida

     owasp-google-hacking

     samm

     owasp-perth

     owasp-testing

     owasp-nynjmetro

     owasp-newzealand

     owasp-netherlands

     esapi-user

     owasp-webscarab

     global_industry_committee

     owasp-all

     esapi-dev

     owasp-washington

     owasp-pci-project

     global-projects-committee

     global_conference_committee

     owasp-application-security-verification-standard

     owasp-london

     owasp-bayarea

     owasp-topten

     owasp-sydney

     global_chapter_committee

     owasp-australia

     owasp-brisbane

     owasp-brazilian

From: Kate Hartmann [mailto:kate.hartmann at owasp.org] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 10:43 AM
To: 'Laurence Casey'; 'Paulo Coimbra'
Cc: dinis.cruz at owasp.org
Subject: RE: leaders list

He is on both lists now.

Kate Hartmann

Operations Director

301-275-9403

www.owasp.org <http://www.owasp.org/>  

Skype:  Kate.hartmann1

From: Laurence Casey [mailto:larry.casey at owasp.org] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 10:40 AM
To: Kate Hartmann; 'Paulo Coimbra'
Cc: dinis.cruz at owasp.org
Subject: RE: leaders list

On second thought, since he is not a project leader you can add him to the
“noneactivelist”. 

--Larry

From: Kate Hartmann [mailto:kate.hartmann at owasp.org] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 10:35 AM
To: 'Paulo Coimbra'; 'Laurence Casey'
Cc: dinis.cruz at owasp.org
Subject: RE: leaders list

So, if this is not the correct list, how can I add Christian to the leaders
list, Larry?

Kate Hartmann

Operations Director

301-275-9403

www.owasp.org <http://www.owasp.org/>  

Skype:  Kate.hartmann1

From: Paulo Coimbra [mailto:paulo.coimbra at owasp.org] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 10:31 AM
To: 'Kate Hartmann'; 'Laurence Casey'
Subject: RE: leaders list

I don’t know how we can keep Christian in the leaders’ mailing list since
I’ve removed him from the only mailing list he was administrating, the
Google Hacking Project, but I know the list you are referring is not the
appropriate one as I have created it only to make it easier for us to
contact all committee’s members at once. 

Paulo Coimbra,

 <https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Main_Page> OWASP Project Manager

From: Kate Hartmann [mailto:kate.hartmann at owasp.org] 
Sent: quinta-feira, 29 de Julho de 2010 15:05
To: 'Laurence Casey'
Cc: paulo.coimbra at owasp.org
Subject: RE: leaders list

I looked at the owasp-all-committee-members list expecting this to be the
place to add someone so they would be on the leader’s list.  I see only one
person on this list, so before I add Christian to this, can you please
confirm that this is the appropriate work around to add a “non leader” to
the leader’s list?

Kate Hartmann

Operations Director

301-275-9403

www.owasp.org <http://www.owasp.org/>  

Skype:  Kate.hartmann1

From: Laurence Casey [mailto:larry.casey at owasp.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:06 AM
To: Dinis Cruz; bradcausey at owasp.org
Cc: Matt Tesauro; paulo.coimbra at owasp.org; OWASP Global Projects Committee;
Kate Hartmann
Subject: Re: leaders list

Brad is now on the following lists.

     owasp-all
     owasp-leaders
     owasp-all-committee-members

Please confirm that ONLY committee member are on the
“owasp-all-committee-members” list and its not open to the public to join.

--Larry

On 7/22/09 7:44 AM, "Dinis Cruz" <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:

Of course that committee members are an OWASP-leader and should be on that
list.

I think paulo created a mailing list for only Comittee members, so Larry
please use this list to auto populate the owasp-leaders mailing list.

Kate, can you add to the 'new commitee member' process the step to add them
to this mailing list. Thanks

Dinis Cruz 

On 22 Jul 2009, at 03:23, Brad Causey <bradcausey at owasp.org> wrote:

I think Matt was saying that Members of the GPC, not Members the GPC mailing
list, should be on the Leaders list.
(http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Global_Committee_Pages
<http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Global_Committee_Pages> )

Do we need a mail list for only the Members of the Global Committees - a
closed list to only those people? Membership of this list would
automatically get you into the leaders list. I don't exactly know how the
intricacies of the mail list relationships work, but I do know that I need
to be able to post to the leaders list, I'm just unsure about what way to go
about that.
Sorry for the confusion.

-Brad Causey
CISSP, MCSE, C|EH, CIFI, CGSP

http://www.owasp.org <http://www.owasp.org> 
--
Never underestimate the time, expense, and effort an opponent will expend to
break a code. (Robert Morris)
--

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Laurence Casey <larry.casey at owasp.org
<mailto:larry.casey at owasp.org> > wrote:

Matt,

I manage the infrastructure and handle technical issues for OWASP. I am not
always aware of who is on each and every project and/or committee.

I don't agree that just because you are on the GPC list that you should be
on the leaders list. If you are running the GPC, that is another story. If
that were the case then people would just join the GPC list to be able to be
on the leaders list. If the GPC is a closed list, then that would make
sense. To have everyone that is a GPC leader added to the leaders list, its
simple, just add them as admins for the GPC list. That would get you on the
list automatically.

I don't mean anything personal for not adding Brad. Unfortunately, his
contributions were not in my arena.

--Larry

On 7/21/09 8:56 PM, "Matt Tesauro" <mtesauro at gmail.com
<mailto:mtesauro at gmail.com> > wrote:

> I don't mean to be harsh here but if being a part of the GPC and
> participating _weekly_ on the GPC calls doesn't qualify for someone to
> be on the OWASP Leaders list, I'm not sure what does.  As I read it,
> Brad could start an OWASP project, deliver little to nothing of
> substance and be on the Leaders list.
>
> I know the Global Committees are a new thing but this seems like one of
> those times to use common sense and not rules and procedure.  Brad had
> to get 5 active OWASP Leaders to support his addition to the GPC.  Does
> that have no merit?
>
> I know Dinis has frequently asks various GPC members to propose changes
> first to the leaders list to measure the community's response.  How is a
> member of the GPC to do this when they are in Brad's position?
>
> -- Matt Tesauro
> OWASP Live CD Project Lead
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Live_CD_Project
<http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Live_CD_Project> 
> http://AppSecLive.org <http://AppSecLive.org>  - Community and Download
site
>
> Laurence Casey wrote:
>> Brad,
>>
>> That is correct, you need to be either a chapter leader or project
>> leader. If you have a reason to be on the list that meets that
>> requirement, I will get you added.
>>
>> --Larry
>>
>>
>> On 7/21/09 6:07 PM, "Paulo Coimbra" <paulo.coimbra at owasp.org
<mailto:paulo.coimbra at owasp.org> > wrote:
>>
>>     Brad,
>>
>>     I am not absolutely sure but, as far as I understand the process,
>>     prior to be added to the leads mailing list, one needs to be leading
>>     a project. I suppose the leads mailing list it¹s a just automatic
>>     collection of email addresses of project¹s mailing list
administrators.
>>
>>     Being so, I am copying carbon Laurence Casey, our Tech Director  I
>>     am sure he has a valid proposition to deal with this matter.
>>
>>     Also, I suppose this problem might be happening with more Committee
>>     members and so I presume a general solution could be advisable.
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>
>>     Paulo Coimbra,
>>     OWASP Project Manager <https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Main_Page
<https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Main_Page> >
>>
>>
>>     *From:* bradcausey at gmail.com <mailto:bradcausey at gmail.com>
[mailto:bradcausey at gmail.com <mailto:bradcausey at gmail.com> ] *On
>>     Behalf Of *Brad Causey
>>     *Sent:* terça-feira, 21 de Julho de 2009 22:11
>>     *To:* Paulo Coimbra; dinis cruz; Matt Tesauro
>>     *Subject:* leaders list
>>
>>     I've been trying to get on the leaders list for a few weeks now. It
>>     seems no one will authorize me...
>>
>>     Please advise?
>>
>>
>>     -Brad Causey
>>     CISSP, MCSE, C|EH, CIFI, CGSP
>>
>>     http://www.owasp.org <http://www.owasp.org> 
>>     --
>>     Never underestimate the time, expense, and effort an opponent will
>>     expend to break a code. (Robert Morris)
>>     --
>>

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