[Owasp-board] (Proposal #2) 2 free passes for each training class at conferences + ASK to use empty slots

Tom Brennan tomb at owasp.org
Thu Aug 26 20:00:03 UTC 2010


sounds good lets give it a shot.  course material of course will not be
given away...

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Dave Wichers <dave.wichers at owasp.org>wrote:

> I talked to Jeff and this is what we came up with to extend this idea.
>
> #1 - We will require that each training provider give OWASP 2 free slots
> per
> class.
> #2 - We will 'ask' each training provider that OWASP be allowed to fill any
> seats that are empty 14 days prior to the event with OWASP Leaders at no
> cost to OWASP. Empty seats would be defined as any slots less than 20
> (including our 2 'free' slots from #1).
>
> We suspect that most vendors will agree to our request, and if enough do,
> we
> might simply require it later for simplicity. I think we should try this
> for
> 6 months or a year and see how it goes.
>
> All of this would of course depend on having a minimum # of paid students
> to
> make offering the class worthwhile. I think whatever threshold date we set
> to ask the vendor, "Hey you only have X students right now, do you want to
> commit or withdraw the class?" Once that is done, that should be the date
> (or soon after) that we start to allow OWASP leaders to fill empty seats.
>
> I vote YES to this proposed modification.
>
> -Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org
> [mailto:owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Williams
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 11:35 AM
> To: 'Matt Tesauro'; owasp-board at lists.owasp.org
> Subject: Re: [Owasp-board] (Proposal) 2 free passes for each training class
> at conferences
>
> I support this proposal, but would like to extend this to allow any unused
> seats in classes to be filled by OWASP leaders. Getting OWASP leaders to
> conferences is critical.
>
> I would further like to add Matt's idea to every conference.  Have an
> "OWASP
> Leader Working Session" at every conference during the training days where
> leaders can come for free to live and breathe appsec, share ideas, make
> friends, etc...
>
> --Jeff
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org
> [mailto:owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Matt Tesauro
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 10:23 AM
> To: owasp-board at lists.owasp.org
> Subject: Re: [Owasp-board] (Proposal) 2 free passes for each training class
> at conferences
>
> This proposal seems like a fine solution offering a good balance of the
> competing issues.
>
> I vote yes.
>
> --
> -- Matt Tesauro
> OWASP Board Member
> OWASP Live CD Project Lead
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Live_CD_Project
> http://AppSecLive.org - Community and Download site
>
> On 8/26/10 10:19 AM, Dave Wichers wrote:
> > I can't find the note that proposed this, but I think it's a good idea
> > (if it was your idea, please shout out J).
> >
> > Someone proposed that we include in the training contract with OWASP
> > conference training providers that OWASP can reserve 2 free slots per
> > class to assign to OWASP leaders. I think that is a good idea, and a
> > good compromise between giving things away for free, and losing funding
> > for OWASP.
> >
> > We won't be giving away a flood of free classes, but those we do give
> > away aren't likely to cost OWASP much if any money. There may be times
> > where some leader might have paid to attend anyway, but overall I think
> > this is a good balance.
> >
> > I'd like your vote on this compromise, and I, of course vote Yes.
> >
> > If we agree, we should propose it to the conferences committee to get
> > their buy in.
> >
> > -Dave
> >
> > p.s. if we agree to do this, I think we should 'ask' all training
> > providers for the OWASP Irvine, Ireland, and DC events if they will
> > agree to this modification. They don't have to, but we will also
> > indicate that this will be 'required' for future events. And for those
> > that agree, we should figure out a system for offering these free slots
> > to OWASP leaders (however we define those J ).
> >
> >
> >
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> -- Matt Tesauro
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