[Owasp-board] AppSec Brasil 2010 contract draft

Dave Wichers dave.wichers at owasp.org
Thu Apr 29 17:22:53 UTC 2010


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-----Original Message-----
From: lucas.ferreira at gmail.com [mailto:lucas.ferreira at gmail.com] On Behalf
Of Lucas Ferreira
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:19 PM
To: Dave Wichers
Cc: Laurence Casey; Eoin; Kate Hartmann; dinis cruz; Matt Tesauro; OWASP
Foundation Board List; organizacao2010; Jeff Williams
Subject: Re: [Owasp-board] AppSec Brasil 2010 contract draft

Dave,

I'm lost. Which covers are you talking about?

Thanks,

Lucas

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 09:07, Dave Wichers <dave.wichers at owasp.org> wrote:
> Lucas,
>
> According to Jeff Williams who provided all the images, the only images
that
> aren't editable are the front and back covers. You'll have to work with
> Larry Casey to get French versions of those generated.
>
> -Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lucas.ferreira at gmail.com [mailto:lucas.ferreira at gmail.com] On Behalf
> Of Lucas Ferreira
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:22 PM
> To: Dave Wichers
> Cc: Eoin; Kate Hartmann; dinis cruz; Matt Tesauro; OWASP Foundation Board
> List; organizacao2010; Jeff Williams
> Subject: Re: [Owasp-board] AppSec Brasil 2010 contract draft
>
> Hello Dave,
>
> here is the latest version of our budget. All values are in BRL. I sent
your
> version of the agreement to Fundação Turing and am waiting their answer.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lucas
>
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 23:09, Dave Wichers <dave.wichers at owasp.org>
wrote:
>> Thanks for your efforts in getting this all organized. I think this is
>> very close. I made three edits and one comment. Please let me know how
>> you would suggest the document be reworded to address my 1 comment.
>>
>> Before the OWASP foundation can agree to this and commit to paying
>> almost $5K U.S. to the organizing company, I think we need to see a
>> budget defined by the committee, that can be approved by the
>> foundation. Then TURING needs to work within the confines of that budget.
>>
>> This budget, as approved by the Foundation, will define the allowed
>> expensed defined in this clause: " The obligations of the ORGANIZER:
>> e)  To seek authorization from the FOUNDATION before taking any
>> actions that may incur in any expenses to the EVENT;" (Note:
>> FOUNDATION used be COMMITTEE in the agreement, before I changed it).
>>
>> The approved budget will be considered authorization of approved
expenses.
>> Any expenses outside or above the budget would need to be submitted to
>> the Foundation for approval, not the COMMITTEE. Such requests should
>> be passed through the COMMITTEE, but the COMMITTEE is not authorized
>> to expend funds above and beyond the approved budget without Foundation
> approval.
>>
>> This last paragraph doesn't need to go in the contract as its between
>> OWASP and the COMMITTEE, but since the FOUNDATION is the one that
>> approves all expenses, that is how all this would be covered in the
> contract.
>>
>> If getting an approved budget in place before the contract is signed
>> would cause significant issues, then I suggest we adjust the contract
>> to allow it be signed now, but any event management payment would be
>> contingent on a budget for the event being approved by the Foundation.
>> This approval should happen reasonably soon, so should not pose a large
> risk to Turing.
>>
>> If you have any concerns or suggestions related to what I'm proposing
>> here, please let me know.
>>
>> Thanks, Dave
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lucas.ferreira at gmail.com [mailto:lucas.ferreira at gmail.com] On
>> Behalf Of Lucas Ferreira
>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 5:29 PM
>> To: Eoin; Kate Hartmann
>> Cc: dinis cruz; Matt Tesauro; OWASP Foundation Board List;
>> organizacao2010; Dave Wichers; Jeff Williams
>> Subject: Re: [Owasp-board] AppSec Brasil 2010 contract draft
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> here is a second version of the agreement. It incorporates all the
>> changes and comments I received from the first version.
>>
>> Please review it so we can have it signed ASAP. We already have
>> sponsors that want to pay and expenses we need to make.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Lucas
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 22:13, Lucas Ferreira <listas at sapao.net> wrote:
>>> As I promised, here are the the fees and taxes we will need to pay to
>>> the Instituto Turing regarding AppSec Brasil 2010:
>>>
>>> On all income: 8.25% as federal taxes.
>>>
>>> Fixed: BRL 7400.00 as administrative expenses (accountant, bank fees,
>>> etc)
>>>
>>> On all profits sent to the OWASP Foundation: 25% (federal taxes) plus
>>> banking fees.
>>>
>>> We won't have to pay the Instituto Turing as they prefer being an
>>> event sponsor instead of changing us.
>>>
>>> I'll ask them to list all these fees on the contract.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Lucas
>>>
>>> PS: please forward this to the board list. My emails to this list are
>>> bouncing back.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 14:34, Lucas Ferreira <listas at sapao.net> wrote:
>>>> Hello Eoin,
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 13:26, Eoin <eoin.keary at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>
>>>>> Had a few seconds re this contract;
>>>>>
>>>>> Fund management is being done by the organiser, is this the usual
>>>>> for Brazil? Is there are % the event organiser is entitled to?
>>>>
>>>> In accordance to Brazilian laws, we need a legally registered entity
>>>> to make the conference happen (more clearly: we cannot receive any
>>>> money if we do not exist to the government). So we decided to seek
>>>> the help of an existing entity instead of registering a new one, due
>>>> to time and bureacratic constraints.
>>>>
>>>> We haven't finished the negotiation on the percentages. I'll send
>>>> more info on that ASAP.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Liability:
>>>>> We are liable for injury etc if the Organiser gets hurt, is this
>>>>> standard procedure?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure. I'll verify that.
>>>>
>>>>> We are liable for expenses also, is this all expenses?
>>>>
>>>> All approved expenses. Since they cannot make expenses without
>>>> approval, we are not liable for non-approved expenses. We could make
>>>> thsi clearer in the contract also.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> General question:
>>>>> Is the committee a legal entity? How does this work. Do individuals
>>>>> need to be identified?
>>>>
>>>> No, we'll have to nominate each committee member.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Lucas
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Eoin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 22 April 2010 16:45, dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Lucas
>>>>>> Jeff has a Laywer's background and Dave usually looks at OWASP
>>>>>> related contracts, so I'm CCing them (& the rest of the Board) to
>>>>>> see if they have time to comment on this.
>>>>>> Sorry if you already replied to this, but can you provide more
>>>>>> details on the current brazilian Non-Profit you have created
>>>>>> (called "Instituto
>>>>>> Turing") , its structure, and what are your expectations for the
>>>>>> OWASP US entitity?
>>>>>> Btw, great job on the organization of the next Brazilian
>>>>>> conference
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dinis Cruz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22 April 2010 12:55, Lucas Ferreira <listas at sapao.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Dinis and Matt,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> we are drafting a contract to be signed by the Foundation and the
>>>>>>> Brazilian Company that will handle AppSec Brasil 2010's
>>>>>>> financials. We need this company to have a local presence in
>>>>>>> order to be able to issue invoices and collect the right taxes
>>>>>>> and to handle other requirements. These tasks can only be
>>>>>>> performed by an entity legally registered with the Brazilian
> Government.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have a draft of the contract to be signed attached. Could you
>>>>>>> please see if it is adequate?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lucas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>> From: Lucas Ferreira <listas at sapao.net>
>>>>>>> Date: Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 18:01
>>>>>>> Subject: AppSec Brasil 2010 contract draft
>>>>>>> To: Kate Hartmann <kate.hartmann at owasp.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: organizacao2010 <organizacao2010 at appsecbrasil.org>,
>>>>>>> global_conference_committee
>>>>>>> <global_conference_committee at lists.owasp.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Kate,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> please find attached the proposed contract for the company that
>>>>>>> will handle the financials for AppSec Brasil 2010. Please review
>>>>>>> it and tell us what the next steps are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We already have one of the sponsors that wants us to send an
>>>>>>> invoice and we need to have this agreement signed before we can
>>>>>>> do
>> that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lucas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Eoin Keary
>>>>> OWASP Global Board Member
>>>>> OWASP Code Review Guide Lead Author
>>>>>
>>>>> http://asg.ie/
>>>>> https://twitter.com/EoinKeary
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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