[Owasp-board] [Global_tools_and_project_committee] Summit date : October or January

dinis cruz dinis.cruz at owasp.org
Wed Feb 11 13:03:54 UTC 2009

Hi Jason, the Summit is historically connected to OWASP projects since its
first main objective was to present all work done during the SoC 08.  Of
course that the Summit coverage areas increase dramatically but I would say
that the Summit is the only OWASP conference where the Global Projects
Committee is directly involved in the organization, agenda, funding and

That said you are  correct that we need to get the Global Conferences
Committee involved in this, so I'm now also sending this email to them :)

Dear Global Conferences Committee members :)

Please see the thread below for the proposed rules of engagement for the
next OWASP Summit and the proposed dates of Jan 2010

Let me know your thoughts and ideas


Dinis Cruz

2009/2/11 Jason Li <jason.li at owasp.org>

> I don't have any issue with our committee providing input into the next
> OWASP Summit, but I feel like we're overstepping our boundaries. Shouldn't
> the Summit really fall under the jurisdiction of the Global Conferences
> Committee?
> --
> -Jason Li-
> -jason.li at owasp.org-
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:38 PM, dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:
>> We just finished the GPnT call and here are the main points related to the
>> Summit:
>>    - January is a good time since :
>>       - it gives some more time for the projects to complete (SoC 10
>>       deadline is the US conference, so it will be Nov 09)
>>       - it is a slow month, so it should be easier for people to attend
>>       - it allow us to set the Agenda for 2010 at the Summit, and maybe
>>       even release a couple of Key projects there (OWASP Top 10 2010?)
>>       - Regarding the location, the proposed location is the same as last
>>    year (St.Eulalia, Algarve, Portugal), since
>>    - We have all logistical issues sorted out (Travel, Hotel, Food,
>>       Conference facilities, Cost per person, etc...)
>>       - It fits our budget (2000 USD per head for ALL expenses)
>>       - Paulo and me (Dinis) will take responsibility for it
>>       - Allows us to build on the media/university relationships we
>>       created last year and aim to have much bigger local, European and WorldWide
>>       coverage
>>       - Given the importance of the Summit, we can't afford for any major
>>       logistical problems, so any proposal for hosting it elsewhere needs to:
>>          - Have the personal backing and involvement of a Board Member
>>          (and the Projects and Tools Committee since the Summit is in partly 'owned'
>>          by that Committee)
>>          - Be made by an organization team with proven track record in
>>          organizing OWASP Conferences
>>          - Contain detailed analysis of :
>>             - Summit Costs (so that the average conference attendee cost
>>             is 2000 USD)
>>             - Travel plans for the multiple geographical locations that
>>             the participants will travel from (note that the plan for the next Summit in
>>             Portugal is to only have flights to Lisbon and have the travel agency
>>             arrange for them to get to the venue by Car/Bus/Train. We are also going to
>>             be able to book the flights much earlier so we should be able to get good
>>             flights.This time around the priority will be to minimize the travel time of
>>             the participants)
>>             - Confirmation that most (possible) attendees can travel to
>>             that location
>>             - Note that I have no problem in hosting a Summit in Brazil
>>          (I'm the first one to want to go there :) ), BUT, remember that most of
>>          those dots were placed by the brazilian guys, and that whoever wants to host
>>          it there must come up with the detailed analysis I mentioned above. So If
>>          there is serious motivation to do it there, then let them present their
>>          plans at the next summit.
>>          - One interesting idea that was discussed was *to host 1 or 2
>>    days of meetings at the next OWASP US conference (and maybe even the next
>>    one in EU)*. In the US, we could use this time to have: a)
>>    Presentations about the completed SoC 10 projects, b) Committee's meetings
>>    and c) several Working Sessions on relevant topics (remember that the OWASP
>>    US/EU conferences are usually atended by very well respected AppSec people)
>>       - These meetings would have the same format as the Summit, and
>>       could occur on the Training days.
>>       - As a practical example of the value of these sessions, since most
>>       Summit participants will also be at this conference, we should spend a
>>       couple hours with them to prepare the Summit work scheadule/agenda (since
>>       now we know we CAN work at OWASP Summits, we need to make sure we maximize
>>       our productivity while we are together during that week)
>> Dinis Cruz
>> 2009/2/9 Dave Wichers <dave.wichers at owasp.org>
>>> I agree that pushing it into Q1 is the better idea.
>>> -Dave
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> To: dinis cruz; owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org; OWASP List
>>> Subject: Re: [Owasp-board] Summit date : October or January
>>> Q4 is always the worst for many - I suggest Q1 or January.
>>> Are we going to Brazil based on all those green dots of attendees on the
>>> wall or Portugal again? I vote Brazil or Hawaii :)
>>> Any questions, give me a call at 973-202-0122
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org>
>>> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:29:03
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>>> Subject: [Owasp-board] Summit date : October or January
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