[Owasp-board] List Moderation?

Seba seba at owasp.org
Tue Oct 28 16:01:32 UTC 2008


I'm completely AGAINST moderation!
Even for individuals. If we have a problem with people that violate
some rule (yet to be defined) we can decide on kicking them from the
mailing list. But this should only be on outright violation of eg
promoting commercial stuff.
Please remove moderation?
Regards
Seba

On 10/28/08, Laurence Casey <larry.casey at owasp.org> wrote:
> Board,
>
> I can set moderation on individuals. Perhaps you can give me some
> email addresses to moderate and I we can turn off the emergency hold.
> I looked through the emails awaiting approval and noticed some that we
> trying to be productive. I approved them.
>
> --Larry
>
>
> On Oct 28, 2008, at 11:20 AM, dinis cruz wrote:
>
>> I agree with Tom that the Owasp-leaders should NOT be moderated!
>>
>> There is definitely a traffic problem with it at the moment, but
>> moderating it (specially without it being previously coordinated,
>> agreed and announced) is not a good move.
>>
>> In fact this is the perfect issue to debate next week in Portugal
>>
>> Dinis
>>
>> 2008/10/28 Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org>
>>
>> Is freedom of speech dead at OWASP on OWASP-LEADERS? If yes, we have
>> a BIG problem and governance issue.  If we allow this type of global
>> censorship to take place the result is bad for everyone.
>>
>> I request fellow board members agree that this moderation should be
>> lifted ASAP we're not China and should not act like it - we're OPEN
>> right?
>>
>> Are we open to ideas statements and input from anyone running a
>> OWASP Chapter in the world hence why they are on this list. (If they
>> are not a leader... Take them off the list!!).
>>
>> If there must be moderation (I don't think there should ever be)
>> then ALL 5 board members need to have the same ability to review/
>> approve/reject posts if the "board has final control" then the
>> entire board must have it censorship is bad.
>>
>> When do we strip a chapter leader of the privilege of being on the
>> owasp-leaders list with his peers and his chapter? Does this happen
>> when he does ___________________ (where is that written in our
>> rules....)
>>
>> The owasp-leader community should be people that are mostly
>> progressive chapter leaders. Other leaders will self vet the garbage
>> posts and rambles of individuals and if required we the majority can
>> kick someone off the list based on violations of the ethics policy
>> (yea we need to create that too)  I see it as actually GOOD if a
>> "leader" posts a non-professional post. This written word is his and
>> provides a window into future vetting of views and perceptions from
>> individuals around the world on the mission of OWASP.  Without
>> naming names... Based on posts over the last 12 months I have a
>> short list of people that I want to talk with human to human in
>> Portugal and ask WTF to some of the statements made in emails and
>> thru the grapevine and I want to encourage others that run chapters
>> that just listen and watch... and never post to become more
>> interactive - can't do that with blind moderation
>>
>> Dave/Larry - How many individuals or emails are actually on the
>> owasp-leaders list?
>>
>> Seeing that the owasp-board list is not moderated <grin> discussion?
>>
>>
>>
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Wichers Dave
>> To: tomb at owasp.org
>> To: OWASP Foundation Board List
>> Subject: RE: [Owasp-board] List Moderation?
>> Sent: Oct 28, 2008 10:03 AM
>>
>> Yes. Jeff put a moderation filter in place. And I assume he's
>> planning to do
>> the moderation at this point. There are 7 messages in the queue at
>> this
>> point.
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org
>> [mailto:owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Tom Brennan
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:46 AM
>> To: OWASP Foundation Board List
>> Subject: [Owasp-board] List Moderation?
>>
>> Is the OWASP-LEADERS list currently being moderated? I was told that
>> emails
>> sent to it are not getting out. I also sent a email to it at 12:00
>> last
>> night... nothing.
>>
>> Please review and release/lift moderation if so or kick the process
>>
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