[Owasp-board] List Moderation?

Tue Oct 28 15:28:48 UTC 2008

The list currently has 278 members on it. I have attached the list.

A warning was posted about moderating the list several posts before it  
was put in place. I agree moderating the lists is not what OWASP is  
about, but in this case people were beating a dead horse. I had  
several requests from leaders to be removed based on the trash  
talking. That is not good for OWASP either.

--Larry

On Oct 28, 2008, at 11:20 AM, dinis cruz wrote:

> I agree with Tom that the Owasp-leaders should NOT be moderated!
>
> There is definitely a traffic problem with it at the moment, but  
> moderating it (specially without it being previously coordinated,  
> agreed and announced) is not a good move.
>
> In fact this is the perfect issue to debate next week in Portugal
>
> Dinis
>
> 2008/10/28 Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org>
>
> Is freedom of speech dead at OWASP on OWASP-LEADERS? If yes, we have  
> a BIG problem and governance issue.  If we allow this type of global  
> censorship to take place the result is bad for everyone.
>
> I request fellow board members agree that this moderation should be  
> lifted ASAP we're not China and should not act like it - we're OPEN  
> right?
>
> Are we open to ideas statements and input from anyone running a  
> OWASP Chapter in the world hence why they are on this list. (If they  
> are not a leader... Take them off the list!!).
>
> If there must be moderation (I don't think there should ever be)  
> then ALL 5 board members need to have the same ability to review/ 
> approve/reject posts if the "board has final control" then the  
> entire board must have it censorship is bad.
>
> When do we strip a chapter leader of the privilege of being on the  
> owasp-leaders list with his peers and his chapter? Does this happen  
> when he does ___________________ (where is that written in our  
> rules....)
>
> The owasp-leader community should be people that are mostly  
> progressive chapter leaders. Other leaders will self vet the garbage  
> posts and rambles of individuals and if required we the majority can  
> kick someone off the list based on violations of the ethics policy  
> (yea we need to create that too)  I see it as actually GOOD if a  
> "leader" posts a non-professional post. This written word is his and  
> provides a window into future vetting of views and perceptions from  
> individuals around the world on the mission of OWASP.  Without  
> naming names... Based on posts over the last 12 months I have a  
> short list of people that I want to talk with human to human in  
> Portugal and ask WTF to some of the statements made in emails and  
> thru the grapevine and I want to encourage others that run chapters  
> that just listen and watch... and never post to become more  
> interactive - can't do that with blind moderation
>
> Dave/Larry - How many individuals or emails are actually on the  
> owasp-leaders list?
>
> Seeing that the owasp-board list is not moderated <grin> discussion?
>
>
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Wichers Dave
> To: tomb at owasp.org
> To: OWASP Foundation Board List
> Subject: RE: [Owasp-board] List Moderation?
> Sent: Oct 28, 2008 10:03 AM
>
> Yes. Jeff put a moderation filter in place. And I assume he's  
> planning to do
> the moderation at this point. There are 7 messages in the queue at  
> this
> point.
>
> -Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org
> [mailto:owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Tom Brennan
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:46 AM
> To: OWASP Foundation Board List
> Subject: [Owasp-board] List Moderation?
>
> Is the OWASP-LEADERS list currently being moderated? I was told that  
> emails
> sent to it are not getting out. I also sent a email to it at 12:00  
> last
> night... nothing.
>
> Please review and release/lift moderation if so or kick the process
>
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