[Owasp-board] (for review, email to google) Re: Google Summer of Code Submission!

Jeff Williams jeff.williams at owasp.org
Wed Mar 12 21:10:58 UTC 2008

I think this is pretty good, but I would add something about the success of our program in producing value for very litle cash.  Think of what *we* look for in an application.  Like the testing guide.  I would wordsmith this but i'm getting on a plane to boston now.


-----Original Message-----
From: dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:53 PM
To: Alison McNamee <alison.mcnamee at owasp.org>
Cc: OWASP Board <owasp-board at lists.owasp.org>; Paulo Coimbra <paulo.coimbra at owasp.org>
Subject: [Owasp-board] (for review, email to google) Re: Google Summer of Code Submission!

ok guys,  here is the email that we propose to send to Leslie and Chris (quick note, today's deadline is to become a hosting organization, not sponsorship applications)

Leslie Hawthorn,  lhospo at gmail.com (Program Manager - Open Source, Google Inc.)
Chris DiBona, cdibona at gmail.com (Open Source Programs Manager, Google)

Any other contacts we should send this to? 


 Hello Chris and Leslie (got your details from http://groups.google.com/groups/profile).

I'm Dinis Cruz and I am representing the OWASP (Open Web Application Security Project) who I hope you have come across before (I think me and Chris swapped same emails a couple years ago).

OWASP is focused on Web Application Security and you can see more details about us on our website http://www.owasp.org (http://www.owasp.org/index.php/About_OWASP). OWASP manages  numerous Open Source projects (http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Project) and is represented through the world via our chapters (http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Chapter) and regular conferences (http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_AppSec_Conference). We also recently started publishing (as books) the best documents created by the OWASP documentation projects: http://stores.lulu.com/owasp

Although OWASP is a non-for-profit organization, we use the revenue generated by our conferences and our member's fees (http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Membership#Current_OWASP_Members) to support Open Source and OWASP projects with a sponsorship similar to your's Google Summer of Code.

In the last two years we have successful managed two OWASP Seasons of Code:

OWASP Spring of Code 2007 - http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Spring_Of_Code_2007 (SpoC 07), in which 21 projects were sponsored with a budget of US$117,500,

see http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Spring_Of_Code_2007_:_Selection for a project list & 'sponsorship value'  and http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Spring_Of_Code_2007_-_Projects for the final deliverables

OWASP Autumn of Code 2006 - http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Autumn_Of_Code_2006 (AoC 06), in which 9 projects were sponsored with a budget of US$20,000.Earlier this month, we launched our 3rd sponsorship initiative called the  OWASP Summer of Code 2008: http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Summer_of_Code_2008

Final comment on this OWASP introduction. Using help obtained via Google employees we meet at past OWASP conferences, we have started to move some of OWASP's infrastructure to Google's web based services (owasp.org email for example is now hosted at mail.google.com/a/owasp.org and some OWASP's projects are now using Google Code). In fact our last US conference was originally supposed to be hosted at Google's HQ, but it was logistically not possible, so we ended up at Ebay's.

So, here are the questions that I would like to ask you:
Given that OWASP already has a fully mature sponsorship program, would it be possible to (for the most suitable proposals) to use a Google's Summer of Code sponsorship for the same project sponsored by the OWASP Summer of Code 2008? (we usually give sponsorships between $2,500 and $5,000).

Although we put no limitations to the type of application that can be submitted, for the current initiative we are being more specific and are encouraging projects that fit areas we fell need to be addressed (see http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Request_for_Proposal_List for a list of those projects/areas). Clearly some of these are major activities which require as much resources as possible working on them. Hence it would be very beneficial if we could co-sponsor the successful applications.

We try to be as transparent as possible with our selection criteria (see http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Summer_of_Code_2008#Jury_and_Selection_Criteria). So as part of the applications' requirements we have mandated the public posting of all applications (see here for the first proposals for the current initiative (http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Summer_of_Code_2008_Applications , here for the final list of the previous one http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Spring_Of_Code_2007_Applications) . After selection (by the OWASP board) all selection data will be published here: http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Summer_0f_Code_2008_:_Selection 
so if we are to work together, do you want to also receive, rate and select the projects to sponsor, or do you want to re-use the choices made by OWASP?

Can you advise us what is the best route forward?

Should OWASP apply has an organization? (http://code.google.com/soc/2008/org_signup.html)
Should OWASP help our applicants with a similar submission to the Google Summer of Code?

Another interesting area in which we could work together would be the  sponsorship of a couple projects  focused on the security of Google's Summer of Code projects. Part of OWASP's efforts is to educate the developer community on secure coding best practices (see for example http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Top_Ten_Project and http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Testing_Project) and since the participants of the Google Summer of Code are the next generation of developers, there are lots of  synergies that could be leveraged from OWASP/Google projects

Finally, due to OWASP enormous growth over the last year, our current digital infrastructure needs to be reviewed, and given Google's move into providing such services (from web hosting, to email, to mailing lists, to document management, etc...) we would also like to talk to Google about the type of commercial services that Google can provide to OWASP.Thanks for your time, and please don't hesitate to contact us if you need further details or clarifications.

Best regards

Dinis Cruz
Chief OWASP Evangelist

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Alison McNamee <alison.mcnamee at owasp.org> wrote:
Let me know any help that you need with this.  I will be available by email/gtalk/phone all day
.so anything you need me to do to get this out the door today, just let me know.
Alison McNamee
OWASP Operations Director
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This is due today right!!??
Dinis, have you worked on this with Google? Can you / Paulo make sure we submit the proper proposal today, with help from Alison? Jeff and I can review your submission before it goes in but we really can't work on it today as we are both teaching all day.
Alison – can you try to ping/find Dinis/Paulo right away on this to determine status/help out??
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