[Owasp-board] OotM Rules

Dave Wichers dave.wichers at owasp.org
Fri Mar 7 14:25:48 UTC 2008


I agree with Dinis's addition of 'proposed' everywhere. OWASP 'rules' are
always just guidelines so indicating there is some flexibility is
reasonable.

 

-Dave

 

From: owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org
[mailto:owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of dinis cruz
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 7:26 AM
To: alison mcnamee
Cc: OWASP Foundation Board List
Subject: Re: [Owasp-board] OotM Rules

 

I don't really agree with the financial limitations since they only affect
the most proactive and active chapters / presenters.

>From my point of view, either we simplify it to:

Option A: (items to delete in bold and Underscore

OWASP On the Move Rules

 

- there is a $500 max per speakers with the exception of a $1k maximum in
special circumstances.

- there is a maximum per event of $1k, and an annual maximum of $2k per
chapter

  

So, a chapter can use the sponsorship 4 times a year, with the max of 2
speakers sponsored by OotM for one single event.

 

*          The normal maximum amount per speaker is 500 USD

*          Only in special circumstances the maximum amount per speaker can
be raised to a maximum of $1000 USD

*          There is a limit of 2.000 USD on the amount of $ provided to any
individual per year

*          There is a limit of 1.000 USD on the amount of $ provided to any
event per year

*          There is a limit of 2.000 USD on the amount of $ provided to any
chapter per year

*          The program will run for 1 year or 30.000 USD (which ever comes
first) and then will be reviewed for the value and ROI for OWASP and its
community;

 

------

or make the following changes

OPTION B: (proposed changes in bold)

OWASP On the Move Rules

 

- there is a $500 max per speakers with the exception of a $1k maximum in
special circumstances.

- there is a proposed maximum per event of $1k, and an proposed annual
maximum of $2k per chapter (* see 'further funding' below)

  

So, a chapter can use the sponsorship 4 times a year, with the max of 2
speakers sponsored by OotM for one single event.

 

*          The normal maximum amount per speaker is 500 USD

*          Only in special circumstances the maximum amount per speaker can
be raised to a maximum of $1000 USD

*          There is a proposed limit of 2.000 USD on the amount of $
provided to any individual per year (* see 'further funding' below)

*          There is a proposed limit of 1.000 USD on the amount of $
provided to any event per year(* see 'further funding' below)

*          There is a proposed limit of 2.000 USD on the amount of $
provided to any chapter per year(* see 'further funding' below)

*          The program will run for 1 year or 30.000 USD (which ever comes
first) and then will be reviewed for the value and ROI for OWASP and its
community;

 

* Further funding: for active chapters or speakers who have reach the
proposed financial limits, further funding is possible but will depend on
available budget, since priority would be given to chapters below these
thresholds

------

The OotM program has been running for almost 1 year now, and I think it has
been very successful in promoting cross chapter participation and improving
the OWASP Brand and Community.

The program has not been abused and in fact it has been under used. 

In my view, the two main reasons why there has not been more OotM usage (in
my view) are:

   - the complexity in making it happen (not only must there be a good
chapter organization on the ground, but the speaker must be available (and
willing) to travel).
   - some lack of knowledge on how easy it is to get an OotM request
approved.

Bottom line, I don't see why we should be penalizing active chapters or
speakers like Petkov 'pdp' (which is a great presenter) for some
technicalities and abstract financial limitations. Let's deal with the
problems when they occur (it is hard enough to get this off the ground
without them)

My experience in open community projects is that it takes quite a bit of
time an effort to get something like OotM working, and we shouldn't put any
artificial limitations on it (at least until we run out of budget). 

And when we run out of budget, we would have a very strong case to request
direct sponsorship for OotM. For example Microsoft was very interested in
the concept of 'giving OWASP more visibility and reach' and OotM (specially
if some of the OoTm trips are to conferences) would be a perfect 50k USD
sponsorship for Microsoft.

Dinis

On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 7:52 PM, alison mcnamee <alison.mcnamee at owasp.org>
wrote:

Hello everyone,

 

Below are the rules that have been suggested for OWASP on the Move.  I think
they sound fair, but I'm not sure everyone is happy with them.  Once we
decide on a final set of rules, I will post them to the wiki.

 

 

 

OWASP On the Move Rules

 

- there is a $500 max per speakers with the exception of a $1k maximum in
special circumstances.

- there is a maximum per event of $1k, and an annual maximum of $2k per
chapter

  

So, a chapter can use the sponsorship 4 times a year, with the max of 2
speakers sponsored by OotM for one single event.

 

*          The normal maximum amount per speaker is 500 USD

*          Only in special circumstances the maximum amount per speaker can
be raised to a maximum of $1000 USD

*          There is a limit of 2.000 USD on the amount of $ provided to any
individual per year

*          There is a limit of 1.000 USD on the amount of $ provided to any
event per year

*          There is a limit of 2.000 USD on the amount of $ provided to any
chapter per year

*          The program will run for 1 year or 30.000 USD (which ever comes
first) and then will be reviewed for the value and ROI for OWASP and its
community;

 

 

 

Let me know things everyone likes, doesn't like, wants to change, etc. and
hopefully we can get this straightened out soon.

 

Thanks,

 

Alison


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