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dinis cruz dinis.cruz at owasp.org
Wed Dec 17 14:15:33 UTC 2008

Agree, not good at all.

According to the WIKI page their last meeting was in July
https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Melbourne . There is more activity on the
mailing lists (see
and a quick read of its posts highlighted some the issues raised below

This is definitely an issue that should be addressed by the Global Chapters

Kate can you
  a) anonymize the email below (remove personal contact information)
  b) send the email to the Global Chapters Committee so that they can do due
diligence and
  c) ask them to make a decision on this case.


Please CC the Board on the email to the Chapters Committee kickstarting this


2008/12/16 Jeff Williams <jeff.williams at owasp.org>

> This is concerning.  I suggest Kate figure out the facts and then we decide
> how to proceed.
> --Jeff
> Jeff Williams
> Aspect Security
> work: 410-707-1487
> main: 301-604-4882
> Begin forwarded message:
> *From:* <robert.turney at onsecure.com.au>robert.turney at onsecure.com.au
> *Date:* December 16, 2008 1:25:10 AM EST
> *To:* <owasp at owasp.org>owasp at owasp.org
> Hi,
> I would like to discuss some issues we having with the Melbourne OWASP
> chapter recently and how we can recover the chapter.
> Below is a summary of some of the issues we have been having recently:
> 1. In-frequent meetings and scheduled meetings are not held - This year
> there was only 2 chapter meetings which does not meet the min requirements
> in the Chapter Guide or the Members expectations.
> 2. Meetings are often not web-app-sec related and are often Vendor
> presentations.
> 3. No meeting minutes posted (does not meet the min requiremnts in the
> Chapter Guide).
> 4. No discussion of what is happening with OWASP globally / projects
> occurs, nor of the OWASP principles.
> 5. No Chapter Board or committee present (one person makes all the
> decisions for the Chapter)
> 6. Claims have been raised my Members that the Chapter leader has used
> their position (as chapter leader) to gain commercial advantage for the
> company they work for.
> 7. At the request of the previous chapter leader (Serg) a majority of the
> members preference are for after hours meetings - this discussion has been
> "over-written" by the Chapter leader who will be holding the next three
> meetings during lunch hours.
> 8. The venue has also been a topic of discussion as not being vendor
> independent and not offering after hours access (possible reason for lunch
> meetings?), nor does it offer anonymous attendance. There have been other
> alternative venues offered by members, which may be more suitable.
> In summary, I do not feel that the Melbourne OWASP Chapter members are
> benefiting at all from the current leadership - other members have also
> expressed this opinion.
> I would really like to see the Melbourne Chapter live up to it's potential
> but for this to occur we may need a change of leadership. What do you
> suggest the Melbourne Chapter members can do to resolve this issue?
> I know several people who are willing to put in the time to run the
> Chapter including myself.
> Regards,
> Robert Turney
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