[Owasp-board] Using GNI to normalize Membership cost

Dinis Cruz dinis at ddplus.net
Thu Jan 18 01:59:37 UTC 2007


I never received an answer on my question 'Are you Using GNI to normalize
Membership cost' (see email thread below)

Are you guys OK with this change?

If so we need to think about how to we make this work in this page affect
http://www.owasp.org/apps/Members/index.jsp ?

Talking about http://www.owasp.org/apps/Members/index.jsp, this page doesn't
look good. Does any of you have time to make it better, or shall I ask the
community for a volunteer?

Dinis

On 12/13/06, Dinis Cruz <dinis at ddplus.net> wrote:
>
> I would like to propose that from Jan 1 2007 we will normalize the OWASP
> Membership fee based on the member's country GNI? (see below more details)
>
> Are you guys OK with that?
>
> If you are I will ping the owasp-leaders for their opinion and then see
> how we can make this work
>
> Dinis Cruz
> Chief OWASP Evangelist, Are you a member yet?
> http://www.owasp.org
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Dinis Cruz <dinis at ddplus.net>
> Date: Sep 5, 2006 11:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [Owasp-leaders] Next steps of the OAC (OWASP Autumn of Code)
> To: owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org
>
> It is not a lot of work, we just need to adjust this table
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Membership with this GNI data
>
>  Countries *2004 * Afghanistan ..  Albania 2,120  Algeria 2,270  American
> Samoa .. Andorra .. Angola 930  Antigua and Barbuda 9,480  Argentina 3,580
>  Armenia 1,060  Aruba .. Australia 27,070  Austria 32,280  Azerbaijan 940  Bahamas,
> The ..  Bahrain 14,370  Bangladesh 440  Barbados ..  Belarus 2,140  Belgium
> 31,280  Belize 3,940  Benin 450  Bermuda ..  Bhutan 760  Bolivia 960  Bosnia
> and Herzegovina 2,040  Botswana 4,360  Brazil 3,000  Brunei .. Bulgaria 2,750
>  Burkina Faso 350  Burundi 90  Cambodia 350  Cameroon 810  Canada 28,310  Cape
> Verde 1,720  Cayman Islands .. Central African Republic 310  Chad 250  Channel
> Islands .. Chile 5,220  China 1,500  Colombia 2,020  Comoros 560  Congo,
> Dem. Rep. 110  Congo, Rep. 760  Costa Rica 4,470  Cote d'Ivoire 760  Croatia
> 6,820  Cuba .. Cyprus 16,510  Czech Republic 9,130  Denmark 40,750  Djibouti
> 950  Dominica 3,670  Dominican Republic 2,100  East Asia & Pacific 1,416  Ecuador
> 2,210  Egypt, Arab Rep. 1,250  El Salvador 2,320  Equatorial Guinea ..  Eritrea
> 190  Estonia 7,080  Ethiopia 110  Europe & Central Asia 3,295  European
> Monetary Union 27,921  Faeroe Islands .. Fiji 2,720  Finland 32,880  France
> 30,370  French Polynesia ..  Gabon 4,080  Gambia, The 280  Georgia 1,060  Germany
> 30,690  Ghana 380  Greece 16,730  Greenland .. Grenada 3,750  Guam .. Guatemala
> 2,190  Guinea 410  Guinea-Bissau 160  Guyana 1,020  Haiti ..  Heavily
> indebted poor countries (HIPC) 341  High income 32,112  High income:
> nonOECD 16,046  High income: OECD 33,547  Honduras 1,040  Hong Kong, China
> 26,660  Hungary 8,370  Iceland 37,920  India 620  Indonesia 1,140  Iran,
> Islamic Rep. 2,320  Iraq .. Ireland 34,310  Isle of Man ..  Israel 17,360  Italy
> 26,280  Jamaica 3,300  Japan 37,050  Jordan 2,190  Kazakhstan 2,250  Kenya
> 480  Kiribati 970  Korea, Dem. Rep. .. Korea, Rep. 14,000  Kuwait 22,470  Kyrgyz
> Republic 400  Lao PDR 390  Latin America & Caribbean 3,576  Latvia 5,580  Least
> developed countries: UN classification 333  Lebanon 6,010  Lesotho 730  Liberia
> 120  Libya 4,400  Liechtenstein .. Lithuania 5,740  Low & middle income 1,502
>  Low income 507  Lower middle income 1,686  Luxembourg 56,380  Macao,
> China ..  Macedonia, FYR 2,420  Madagascar 290  Malawi 160  Malaysia 4,520
>  Maldives 2,410  Mali 330  Malta 12,050  Marshall Islands 2,320  Mauritania
> 530  Mauritius 4,640  Mayotte .. Mexico 6,790  Micronesia, Fed. Sts. 2,300
>  Middle East & North Africa 1,972  Middle income 2,274  Moldova 720  Monaco
> .. Mongolia 600  Morocco 1,570  Mozambique 270  Myanmar .. Namibia 2,380  Nepal
> 250  Netherlands 32,130  Netherlands Antilles ..  New Caledonia ..  New
> Zealand 19,990  Nicaragua 830  Niger 210  Nigeria 430  Northern Mariana
> Islands .. Norway 51,810  Oman 9,070  Pakistan 600  Palau 6,870  Panama 4,210
>  Papua New Guinea 560  Paraguay 1,140  Peru 2,360  Philippines 1,170  Poland
> 6,100  Portugal 14,220  Puerto Rico ..  Qatar .. Romania 2,960  Russian
> Federation 3,400  Rwanda 210  Samoa 1,840  San Marino .. Sao Tome and
> Principe 390  Saudi Arabia 10,140  Senegal 630  Serbia and Montenegro 2,680
>  Seychelles 8,190  Sierra Leone 210  Singapore 24,760  Slovak Republic 6,480
>  Slovenia 14,770  Solomon Islands 560  Somalia ..  South Africa 3,630  South
> Asia 594  Spain 21,530  Sri Lanka 1,010  St. Kitts and Nevis ..  St. Lucia
> 4,180  St. Vincent and the Grenadines 3,400  Sub-Saharan Africa 601  Sudan
> 530  Suriname 2,230  Swaziland 1,660  Sweden 35,840  Switzerland 49,600  Syrian
> Arab Republic 1,230  Tajikistan 280  Tanzania 320  Thailand 2,490  Timor-Leste
> 550  Togo 310  Tonga 1,860  Trinidad and Tobago 8,730  Tunisia 2,650  Turkey
> 3,750  Turkmenistan ..  Uganda 250  Ukraine 1,270  United Arab Emirates 23,770
>  United Kingdom 33,630  United States 41,440  Upper middle income 4,769  Uruguay
> 3,900  Uzbekistan 450  Vanuatu 1,390  Venezuela, RB 4,030  Vietnam 540  Virgin
> Islands (U.S.) ..  West Bank and Gaza ..  World 6,329  Yemen, Rep. 550  Zambia
> 400  Zimbabwe 620
>
> taken from http://devdata.worldbank.org/data-query/ (the query was for
> 'All Countries' -> 'GNI per Capita, Atlas method' -> year 2004
>
> For reference what we need to use is the GNI and not the GDP (see
> http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/DATASTATISTICS/0,,contentMDK:20451503~menuPK:64133156~pagePK:64133150~piPK:64133175~theSitePK:239419,00.html<http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/DATASTATISTICS/0,,contentMDK:20451503%7EmenuPK:64133156%7EpagePK:64133150%7EpiPK:64133175%7EtheSitePK:239419,00.html>
> )
>
> And here is an interresting article that uses the GNI as a comparison:
> http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue8_12/ghosh/#g2
>
> Dinis
>
> On 9/5/06, Jeff Williams <jeff.williams at owasp.org> wrote:
> >
> >   I totally agree the GDP factor would be more fair.
> >
> >
> >
> > Is this any more work?  Who will do it?
> >
> >
> >
> > --Jeff
> >
> >
> >   ------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org [mailto:
> > owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org] *On Behalf Of *Dinis Cruz
> > *Sent:* Monday, September 04, 2006 6:09 PM
> >
> > *To:* owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org
> >  *Subject:* Re: [Owasp-leaders] Next steps of the OAC (OWASP Autumn of
> > Code)
> >
> >
> >
> > Eoin, that is a good point, but since we currenty don't do that for the
> > main Owasp membership I don't think that we should do it at this stage
> > (probably for the next round of projects (in the Owasp Spring of Code)).
> >
> > Also we put this in the rules that were published so it is not fair to
> > do it at this stage.
> >
> > Regarding the distribution of projects, ultimately my plan is to make
> > the decision based on merit and capabilty to deliver (so I don't think that
> > the Asia/East/Africa/Most of Europe/South America :) will get most of the
> > projects)
> >
> > While we are on the subject, what do you guys think of changing the
> > membership rules by the next Owasp conference and introduce the GDP factor?
> >
> > Dinis
> >
> > On 9/4/06, *Eoin Keary* <eoinkeary at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > So is the sponsorship GDP related (the  $5000).
> > If not i fear many of the lower GDP countries shall apply for this and
> > the
> > geographic balance of distribution of the work shall be in Aisa/East?
> > just a thought.
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Dinis Cruz" <dinis at ddplus.net>
> > >Reply-To: dinis.cruz at ddplus.net
> > >To: < owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org>
> > >Subject: [Owasp-leaders] Next steps of the OAC (OWASP Autumn of Code)
> > >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:50:39 -0400
> > >
> > >Ok, so I have started the distribution of the OAC (OWASP Autumn of
> > Code)
> > >Press Release
> > >(https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Autumn_Of_Code_2006_:_Press_Release
> > )
> > >by sending it to:
> > >all lists at lists.owasp.org (not 100% if it worked),
> > >webappsec at securityfocus.com,
> > > SC-L at securecoding.org ,
> > >full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk and websecurity at webappsec.org.
> > >The next step is to submit it to the media.
> > >
> > >Does anybody here have a good list of media contacts that can be used
> > to
> > >distribute this PR?
> > >
> > >It would also be a good idea to get a PR distribution company involved
> > >(like http://www.prweb.com/destination.php or
> > http://www.prnewswire.com/)
> > >
> > >Finally, I added a small item to the
> > > http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_News page, but I think that we
> > should
> > >give this project more visibility on the main www.owasp.org website
> > (for
> > >example it doesn't make a lot of sense to have this page
> > >http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_student_projects linked from
> > >www.owasp.org)
> > >
> > >Dinis
> > >
> >
> >
> > >_______________________________________________
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> >
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards
> >
> > Dinis Cruz
> > OWASP Autumn of Code 2006, http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OAC
> > OWASP .Net Project, http://www.owasp.org/index.php/.Net
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards
>
> Dinis Cruz
> OWASP Autumn of Code 2006, http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OAC
> OWASP .Net Project, http://www.owasp.org/index.php/.Net
>
>
> --
>
>


-- 
Dinis Cruz
Chief OWASP Evangelist, Are you a member yet?
http://www.owasp.org
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