[Owasp-board] Offsite backup and another OWASP expense?

Dave Wichers dave.wichers at owasp.org
Tue Dec 18 01:31:04 UTC 2007


Minor detail is that Tom's price is / year, while the service we found is /
month which is massively more expensive. I'll let you know what we find out.

-----Original Message-----
From: owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org
[mailto:owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Dave Wichers
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:28 PM
To: 'Dinis Cruz'
Cc: 'OWASP Board'
Subject: Re: [Owasp-board] Offsite backup and another OWASP expense?

The offsite backup I'm talking about is an online service like Tom has
proposed, its just more expensive. $7 / gig rather than $2 / gig. Presumably
there are differences in the two services and so we'll have to explore what
those differences are. If its high security and such, I don't think we need
that since we don't care if it gets stolen :-), which just don't want it to
get lost.

-Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Dinis Cruz [mailto:dinis at ddplus.net] 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:30 PM
To: Dave Wichers
Cc: tomb at owasp.org; OWASP Board
Subject: Re: [Owasp-board] Offsite backup and another OWASP expense?

I agree with Tom that an online backup service would be more
interesting (and once we get the regular www.owasp.org DVDs sorted out
total lost of www.owasp.org would not be a major problem).

Regarding Aspect's costs for OWASP, they sound good to me (and I think
that they should be made public once we make all our financial data
available)

Dinis

On 12/17/07, Dave Wichers <dave.wichers at owasp.org> wrote:
> We'll look into this other option. OWASP is directly paying for her
> insurance and payroll etc. We are trying to keep OWASP expenses separate
> from Aspect as much as possible. The only shared expenses are this amount
> proposed below, and the cost of OWASP's T1 (which also provides Alison
with
> phone service).
>
> -Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Brennan [mailto:tomb at owasp.org]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:17 PM
> To: Dave Wichers
> Cc: 'OWASP Board'
> Subject: Re: [Owasp-board] Offsite backup and another OWASP expense?
>
>
> What about online backup of stuff that is OWASP @ http://www.idrive.com
> $99 per year 50 gb. archive to tape and off-site is so... yesterday ;)
>
> $6000 per year ($500 per month) for administrative cost/backoffice
> rent/lights/office cost and the ability to see other humans on a day to
> day is much better than working from home f/t with a PO box ;) or HQ Space
> like from http://www.hq.com  + the annual salary (what is that btw?) =
> total projected operational costs.
>
> How is OWASP Foundation handling the workers-comp, insurance(s) and other
> benefits to the employee if any - is that on Aspect's payroll then simply
> a charge back?
>
>
>
> > Guys,
> >
> >
> >
> > I wanted to get your thoughts on a potential expense for OWASP, and also
> > mention another expense.
> >
> >
> >
> > Aspect is researching offsite backup capabilities and we could include
> > OWASP
> > in the backup process if interested. The current pricing is $7 / gig /
> > month
> > for a 4 year contract. We think this will work out to currently about
$600
> > /
> > month for OWASP's content, which is about half of what Aspect's portion
of
> > the bill would be. By combining the two together, we get a slightly
better
> > price.
> >
> >
> >
> > Aspect hasn't committed to doing this yet as it is more expensive than
we
> > were hoping but if we do, do you think OWASP should invest $7K / year on
> > this type of service or should we simply risk it, and not pay for this.
> >
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know a backup service that would provide offsite backup to
> > OWASP
> > for free or much cheaper?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > p.s. Aspect calculated an average cost for facilities at Aspect, i.e.,
> > rent,
> > misc office supplies, etc. and our average is currently $672 / month /
> > employee for the past 5 months. As such, we have offered to provide this
> > to
> > Alison for $500 / month for the next year, and then at the end of 2009
> > we'll
> > look at this again. Does this seem like a fair price?
> >
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>
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