[Owasp-board] FW: OWASP books to order

Alison McNamee alison.mcnamee at owasp.org
Thu Dec 13 22:03:51 UTC 2007

Please see the below email from Sarah at Lulu.  It sounds like we will have
to get all of the books shipped to me if we want to add a personalized
letter to the bundles.


Let me know the final decision..


Alison McNamee

OWASP Operations Director

9175 Guilford Road

Suite 300

Columbia, MD 21046

301-604-4882 (phone)

301-604-8033 (fax)






From: Sarah Burris [mailto:sburris at lulu.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:15 PM
To: alison.mcnamee at owasp.org
Cc: dinis at ddplus.net
Subject: RE: OWASP books to order


Hi Alison,


Thanks for your email and inquiry! I will try my best to explain the options
and my suggestion, but I'm afraid I don't have any great news to share with


As you may already know, bulk order discounts don't go into effect until you
reach a quantity of 250 of each book; so unfortunately, you don't qualify
for any special pricing at these quantities. If you simply order 70 of each
book on the site, the cart & cost calculator will automatically apply
discounts on orders of 25+, so you will still receive some discounts. You've
probably noticed this already, though, since you've taken the time to work
out pricing :)


All of our orders placed through the site have shipping costs generated
straight from UPS, so we actually don't have any slack there either. 


At this point, there isn't much difference between your two options whether
you receive all the books or ship X amount of different orders to
individuals. Weighing the cons of each: shipping all of them to you and then
redistributing will cause you to pay almost twice as much in shipping;
however, shipping them all from Lulu may force you pay for sales tax,
depending on where you ship to (Indiana, NC, NY and Canada have sales tax).
My suggestion would be to order them altogether and have them sent to one
location, especially if you want to include a personalized letter. (Our
headquarters is located in NC, so we are not on site with our printers,
which are distributed worldwide; that being said, it would be difficult for
us to include the letter for you if you did in fact order in bulk.)


I wish there was something we could do! But good luck, feel free to let me
know if you have any other questions and please keep us in mind should you
choose to place further bulk orders!



Sarah Burris

919.459.5858 x 410






From: "Alison McNamee" <alison.mcnamee at owasp.org>

Date: December 13, 2007 2:06:20 PM EST

To: <mrobie at lulu.com>

Cc: "'Dinis Cruz'" <dinis at ddplus.net>

Subject: OWASP books to order



Hi Michelle,


I am a new employee at OWASP, and will be handling ordering/shipping books
for OWASP from now on.   I got your name and contact info from Michelle


I am in the process of trying to figure out the cost to order and ship
bundles of 6 particular books to various people.  The six books I am
interested in ordering are:



OWASP WebGoat and WebScarab

OWASP Top 10 - Testing - Legal 07

We are looking to spend about $5k on these books, and would like to ship
these bundles (1 of each book) to various members, chapter leaders, etc.
around the world.  I have calculated that I can order 70 of each book, and
the cost to have them printed and shipped to me would be $4,260.13.
However, I would like to find out if I could order these books, and have
LuLu ship the bundles directly to each person.  I am assuming you have
better UPS deals than OWASP does, so it may be more cost effective for us to
do it this way.   If this is possible, would we also be able to send you a
letter from our Chair Leader that could be included in these bundles?

Please let me know what my options are.

Thank you,


OWASP Operations Director

Suite 300

301-604-4882 (phone)



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