[Owasp-board] Owasp chair

Tom Brennan tomb at owasp.org
Sat Apr 10 09:11:14 UTC 2004


Jan 1 2012, 24 Months is the term.

Current board needs to align to roles defined in bylaws.  AppSecUSA meeting we will work out the details in person.



On Aug 23, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Michael Coates <michael.coates at owasp.org> wrote:

> We need to determine the transition date for new board members. Otherwise it is unclear who should be voting on issues.
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> Since the bylaws are not clear we have a few options:
> 1. Have current board amend bylaws with a decision
> 2. Come to a general agreement on the transition date and make sure to specify this in the next bylaw update.
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> The two main options for transition dates are the following:
> 1. AppSecUSA  
> 2. Jan 1, 2012
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> * AppSecUSA makes sense because we pushed the voting process to be completed specifically before this event. It would then make sense that the transition occurs at this time. 
> * Jan 1, 2012 is a nice round data and was mentioned in Tom's election process email early this year.  The election page  lists Jan 1 as the official date. But just because its "in the wiki" doesn't necessarily make it right.  Its a bit odd to hold the election and then wait over 4 months for the transition.
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> Can we discuss this issue and come to an agreement on the plan of action?
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> Michael Coates
> OWASP
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> On Aug 22, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Eoin wrote:
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>> need to be more specific on the bylaws I think.
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>> On 22 August 2011 16:41, Dave Wichers <dave.wichers at owasp.org> wrote:
>> I thought the intent was to have the board composition change at AppSec USA, not wait until Jan 1. I don’t think we intended or required that the 2 year terms be on a calendar year basis.
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>> -Dave
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>> From: Michael Coates [mailto:michael.coates at owasp.org] 
>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:04 PM
>> To: OWASP Foundation Board List
>> Cc: Jeff Williams; Tom Brennan; Dave Wichers; Jason Li; Paulo Coimbra
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>> Subject: Re: [Owasp-board] Owasp chair
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>> Can someone help me with a bit of background on this thread. The combination of dance-offs and board chair discussion has me a little confused :)
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>> Is the intent of this thread to select the next OWASP chair? On that note, I did want to raise a couple of questions.  Our bylaws state the following:
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>> SECTION 2.02 Election and Term of Office. Each Board member will serve for a term of 2 years.
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>> The role of the Board Members shall be elected by the Board of Directors at the first meeting following
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>> the election of the Board of Directors. If the election of officers shall not be held at such meeting, such
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>> election shall be held as soon thereafter as conveniently may be. Each officer shall hold that role until
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>> the next election has been completed.
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>> Although helpful, this doesn't actually specify the following:
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>> 1. Will this vote take place after the newly elected board members begin their terms (e.g. Jan, 2012) or immediately following the election (e.g. now)?
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>> 2. Which board members will vote? I'm assuming this is the board members currently active at the time of the vote. If so, this implies the answer to item #1 would be January.
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>> Thanks,
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>> Michael Coates
>> OWASP
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>> On Aug 19, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Paulo Coimbra wrote:
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>> Michael Coates has been added to the Board's mailing list.
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>> Thanks,
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>> - Paulo
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>> Paulo Coimbra
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>> OWASP Project Manager
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>> From: Jeff Williams <jeff.williams at owasp.org>
>> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:11:27 -0400
>> To: 'Tom Brennan' <tomb at owasp.org>, 'Dave Wichers' <dave.wichers at owasp.org>
>> Cc: Jason Li <jason.li at owasp.org>, OWASP Foundation Board List <owasp-board at lists.owasp.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Owasp-board] Owasp chair
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>> Makes sense to me from the “lame duck” chair.
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>> I also suggest adding Michael to the board mailing list now.
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>> --Jeff
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>> From: owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org [mailto:owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Tom Brennan
>> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:04 AM
>> To: Dave Wichers
>> Cc: Jason Li; OWASP Foundation Board List
>> Subject: Re: [Owasp-board] Owasp chair
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>> I've seen Dave dance he's right.   
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>> As the most senior Owasp guy and re-elected I propose he takes over the chair role as defined in bylaws and as we fill roles that enables future elections to be for roles rather then "seats"
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>> More discussion at the AppSecUSA dance party
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>> Semper Fi,
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>> Tom Brennan
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>> Tel: 973-202-0122
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>> On Aug 19, 2011, at 10:48 AM, "Dave Wichers" <dave.wichers at owasp.org> wrote:
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>> In that case, I will surely win. :-)
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>> From: owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org [mailto:owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Matt Tesauro
>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:07 PM
>> To: Jason Li
>> Cc: OWASP Foundation Board List
>> Subject: Re: [Owasp-board] Owasp chair
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>> Jason - you need to read the bylaws more closely - especially special addendum 6-B, subsection 7 were it states "Winner of the dance off will be the dancer who shows the least aptitude for rhythm, grace and style"
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>> So, its a race to the bottom and you have no chance.  ;)
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>> --
>> -- Matt Tesauro
>> OWASP Board Member
>> OWASP WTE Project Lead
>> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Live_CD_Project
>> http://AppSecLive.org - Community and Download site
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>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Jason Li <jason.li at owasp.org> wrote:
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>> I like the dance off idea... too bad I'm not on the Board because I'd tear up the dance floor on all of you! ;-)
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>> In seriousness, if memory serves correctly, the bylaws should address how it would be done?
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>> -Jason
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>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Eoin <eoin.keary at owasp.org> wrote:
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>> Guys,
>> Just a thought.....
>> So how do we elect the new owasp global chair, treasurer etc?
>> (I vote we have a dance-off)
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>> -ek
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