[Owasp-board] Paulo @ OWASP AppSec USA 2011?

Jason Li jason.li at owasp.org
Sat Apr 10 02:58:31 UTC 2004


Kate,

I appreciate that you wanted to answer Paulo's question as quickly as
possible.

However, the request was directed at myself and the rest of the GPC.

The GPC is paying for Paulo's travel out of our budget. As a result, the GPC
(and ultimately me) are responsible for those expenditures,  so I think it's
prudent for us to make these kinds of decisions and set these policies.

-Jason

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Kate Hartmann <kate.hartmann at owasp.org>wrote:

> Paulo, I think this plan is fine.  I’m looking forward to seeing you in MN.
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> *From:* owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org [mailto:
> owasp-board-bounces at lists.owasp.org] *On Behalf Of *Paulo Coimbra
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:31 AM
> *To:* Jason Li
> *Cc:* OWASP Foundation Board List; Adam Baso; projects at owasp.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Owasp-board] Paulo @ OWASP AppSec USA 2011?
> *Importance:* High****
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> Jason, GPC,****
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> I don't want to be a pain but I need to clarify the terms of my travel to
> the OWASP AppSec USA as soon as possible because right know I am merely a
> fortnight away from my ideal departure date.****
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> In my email below I had asked for your agreement relatively to the
> possibility of moving my work place during the week before the AppSec USA
> (11 – 17 September) so that I could accompany my wife in a business travel
> in which she plans a stay in Boston. As I already said I would be working as
> normal throughout this period and go to Minneapolis immediately after. ***
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> Also, in terms of costs,  I have presented a proposal in which I would pay
> for the internal flight Boston-Minneapolis, and would expense OWASP the stay
> in Minneapolis and the flights Lisbon-Boston and Minneapolis-Lisbon.****
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> So, if you agree with the frame above as I have understood you do from your
> previous email, could you please let me know if I can work with Diplomata
> Tours and ask them to produce a cost estimation for the flights to present
> you? Also, can I work with Kate to make a hotel reservation in Minneapolis
> for the period 18 – 23 of September?****
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> Thanks,****
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> - Paulo****
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> Paulo Coimbra****
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> OWASP Project Manager <https://www.owasp.org/index.php/User:Paulo_Coimbra>
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> *From: *Jason Li <jason.li at owasp.org>
> *Date: *Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:18:56 -0400
> *To: *OWASP Foundation Board List <owasp-board at lists.owasp.org>
> *Cc: *<projects at owasp.org>, Adam Baso <adam.baso at owasp.org>, Paulo Coimbra
> <pcoimbra at owasp.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Paulo @ OWASP AppSec USA 2011?****
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> Board,****
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> We had heard some previous discussions that implied that there were****
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> already existing plans/budget to bring Paulo to AppSecUSA (either by****
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> the conference organizers or by the Board), so I asked Paulo to verify****
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> if his expenses would be covered by some other initiative within****
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> OWASP.****
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> The GPC had already planned for Paulo to attend both our working****
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> sessions in our original budget proposal this year, so we will cover****
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> the appropriate expenses based on our existing policies.****
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> Specifically, our policy is to provide committee members with an****
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> allowance up to the equivalent of the cheapest cost of airfare and****
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> accommodations. This allowance is calculated taking into account that****
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> it may be cheaper for OWASP to pay for additional night(s) of****
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> accommodation if the airfare is substantially cheaper by either****
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> arriving or staying earlier/later. For example, by arriving a day****
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> earlier to the working session at AppSec EU, the GPC saved several hundred
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> dollars *per person* on airfare, which was more than enough to cover****
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> the additional night of accommodations. Even after the additional****
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> night of accommodations, the final costs of the first GPC working****
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> session were still 11.6% under budget.****
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> This "allowance" is the model we pioneered for the OWASP Summit once****
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> it became clear that Diplomata/Summit Attendees needed proper guidance****
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> to spend OWASP funds appropriately. Obviously, we also used the same****
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> model for the previous GPC Working Session****
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> (http://sl.owasp.org/gpcws-jun11-proceedings#h.8jvs9j2p59fn). This****
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> policy ensures that OWASP is not paying unnecessarily high costs for****
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> travel, while granting the attendee the flexibility to work their own****
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> travel schedule and arrangements.****
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> The GPC will communicate with Paulo the appropriate allowance and he****
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> can choose his travel plans accordingly.****
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> -Jason****
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> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Paulo Coimbra <pcoimbra at owasp.org> wrote:
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> Board,****
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> Since the OWASP AppSec USA 2011 is swiftly approaching, it seemed****
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> appropriate to ask whether you consider my presence useful.****
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> For your information, except for being confronted with an unplanned event,
> I****
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> am available to join the meeting and believe that I could give a****
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> contribution.****
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> Also, the GPC is considering a working session to be held beginning****
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>  September, 18 and I believe it supports my participation.****
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> Being so, I ask whether OWASP pays the travel and accommodation costs****
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> associated with my presence at these two events (GPC WS + Conf) throughout
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> the period 18 – 23 of September.****
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> Additionally, in the event of your answer to the question above being****
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> positive, please allow me, I have a couple more of issues on which I need*
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> your evaluation as follows.****
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> As my wife will need to be in Boston for work on the week before the OWASP
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> conference, I was thinking to also be in Boston during that time. I would
> be****
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> working as normal throughout this period and go to Minneapolis immediately
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> after. What do you think?****
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> If OK, I would obviously pay for the internal flight Boston-Minneapolis,
> and****
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> would expense OWASP the stay in Minneapolis and the flights Lisbon-Boston*
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> and Minneapolis-Lisbon.****
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> Do you think this would work? If so, which OWASP budget would support this
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> cost? How should I proceed in operational terms? Can I book my flights and
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> see with Kate about accommodation?****
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> Thanks,****
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> - Paulo****
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> Paulo Coimbra****
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> OWASP Project Manager****
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