[Governance] Gossip from Josh Sokol

Martin Knobloch martin.knobloch at owasp.org
Sat Jun 21 09:39:19 UTC 2014


Christian,

This is not against you, but I am not the channel to use to talk to any
member, mailinglist of group inside or outside OWASP.

There are several, indeed related, cases to be sorted out.

Please take the opportunity to talk with me via Skype or  phone, as I have
proposed earlier.

Cheers,
-martin




On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Christian Heinrich <
christian.heinrich at cmlh.id.au> wrote:

> Martin,
>
> Can you please forward my response to the OWASP Board in relation to
> http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2014-June/013966.html
>
> Josh Sokol spoke to both Chris Gatford and Serg Belokamen about Australia.
>
> I'll quote two tweets when I presented at OWASP Sydney in April 2010 (just
> before I received the first e-mail that would cause OWASPGAte i.e.
> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Inquiries/Google_Hacking_Project
>
> https://twitter.com/chrisgatford/status/12505560435 - "*#owasp
> <https://twitter.com/hashtag/owasp?src=hash> Sydney big numbers tonight!*"
> https://twitter.com/chrisgatford/status/12508436364 - "@*deathflu at a
> guess 30 ish not bad numbers format was good as was venue."*
>
>
> Therefore the claim by Josh Sokol that "*I've been told that his actions
> in the OWASP Australia Chapters has actually made it so that people will
> not show up if they know he will be there.*" is *completely false and
> defamatory*.
>
> I see that Serg Belokamen from the OWASP Melbourne Chapter has decided to
> highlight the recent controversy related to OWASP Flagship Project to is
> twitter followers i.e.
> https://twitter.com/sergicles/status/478736430600974336 just as he
> leveraged
> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Inquiries/Google_Hacking_Project to
> attack me i.e. https://twitter.com/sergicles/status/17824810096 "*Chatter
> on OWASP leaders mailing list has put the final nail in Google Hacking
> project and forbids presentations on the topic. LoLzZz pw4nd.*"
>
> BTW, @sergicles is a play on words of the male anatomy and Serg.
>
> I don't promote OWASP on Twitter anymore after Sarah Baso had me removed
> as speaker from AppSec Asia in 2012 as I have relocated to WASC. If I had a
> negative view against OWASP then Justin Derry would not have sought me out
> as a speaker.
>
> Therefore the claim by Josh Sokol that "*Christian has made comments
> against OWASP on his personal Twitter account*" is *completely false and
> defamatory*.
>
> Can Josh outline how he consider the reference about me from Chris Gatford
> and Serg Belokamen who have undermined OWASP in Australia on several well
> known occasions to be reliable referees?
>
> I have more content to add to this e-mail and will do so from 28 June 2014.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Christian Heinrich
> http://cmlh.id.au/contact
>
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