[Governance] [Owasp-leaders] Requesting Community Feedback on Virtual Management

Christian Heinrich christian.heinrich at cmlh.id.au
Wed Jun 18 22:52:46 UTC 2014


Can you hire http://www.linkedin.com/pub/stephanie-fohn/0/49/80a or
someone else with similar experience in business itself (not just
webappsec) to consult on what to do about the Executive Director?

Also what are the cost savings (both CAPEX and OPEX) and associated
SLA in outsourcing to Virtual Management Inc, etc?

On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
> That, in all honesty, was my first impression as well.  But then I started
> thinking about OWASP as a company with finances, hr, operations, and other
> concerns.  For most of us here, InfoSec is our core competency and not those
> things.  We've made due with our Whistleblower Policies and Employee
> Handbooks, but we owe it to all of our stakeholders to take a more
> professional approach here and elsewhere in our business.  I'd much rather
> see the Board and volunteers focus on our mission of AppSec and leave that
> other stuff to their respective professionals.  That said, I'm very
> interested in seeing where your head is at once you've had an opportunity to
> research and give further consideration.
> ~josh
> On Jun 18, 2014 5:22 PM, "(P7N) Jason Johnson" <jason.johnson at p7n.net>
> wrote:
>> I have been quiet for sometime just watching as things happen as they
>> usually do. Farming out the management duties to a third party sounds like
>> some office space stuff. Sounds strange to me but I will research this and
>> reply back with further disbelief. Meetings with the Bobs..."Well bob I say
>> I do about 25 min of actual work a week" (officespace)
>> On June 18, 2014 4:24:44 PM CDT, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> OWASP Community,
>>> As you already know, our Executive Director, Sarah Baso, recently
>>> announced that she will be leaving OWASP in August in order to spend quality
>>> time with the coming addition to her family.  Since she initially notified
>>> us of her intent, the Board and Sarah began the conversation of how OWASP
>>> would move forward in her absence.  I think we all are aware that Sarah has
>>> made some amazing contributions to our organization and her absence will not
>>> go unnoticed.  That said, it is important for us to think about a short-term
>>> transition plan as well as a long-term vision for the role of Executive
>>> Director at OWASP.
>>> No decisions have been made yet, but the Board believes that there may be
>>> significant value in working with a third-party professional management firm
>>> with experience in global finance, human resources, and non-profit growth in
>>> order to help us to assess where we are today and where we would like to get
>>> to with the Foundation.  The goal would be to use them to transition many of
>>> Sarah's current responsibilities, leverage their expertise to determine if
>>> there are areas that we can improve upon, and then reassess our options at
>>> that time (tentatively Q4 2014).  We could elect to keep them around,
>>> conduct a search for a new Executive Director, or whatever we all feel makes
>>> sense as we push forward.
>>> After researching several such services, we have all been very impressed
>>> with a company called Virtual Management Inc.  Their support would include
>>> time from Greg Kohn as the Team Lead, Tom Pappas for Finance and Grants, and
>>> Janice Carroll for Operations.  They have a large volume of experience
>>> working with non-profit organizations similar to our own and received a
>>> positive review for their current work with the Apache Software Foundation.
>>> Has anyone had a business relationship with:
>>> Virtual Management Inc. or Wakefield, MA or any of its employees?
>>> Website: http://www.virtualmgmt.com/
>>> Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/50550
>>> We are conducting our due diligence and are looking for anyone who has
>>> had either GOOD or BAD experiences with Virtual.  OWASP Community, if you
>>> have any feedback regarding Virtual, we would love to hear your comments.
>>> Please, if you have any thoughts, feel free to respond back to this message,
>>> send us an e-mail in private, or call any of us up.  We have a contract from
>>> Virtual, but wanted to make sure that there were no significant concerns
>>> from the community before signing.  We've set a soft deadline of 5:00 PM PST
>>> on Friday, June 20th to try and collect all feedback and make a decision on
>>> how to proceed.  Thank you very much in advance for anything that you can
>>> add to this conversation!
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The OWASP Board of Directors
>>> ________________________________
>>> OWASP-Leaders mailing list
>>> OWASP-Leaders at lists.owasp.org
>>> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-leaders
>> Jason Johnson
>> Projectseven
>> e: Jason.Johnson at p7n.net
>> c: **DATAMAN
>> --
>> On the phone. Please excuse my brevity.
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