[Governance] Dinis Cruz - "Mental Illness" Comment

Christian Heinrich christian.heinrich at cmlh.id.au
Fri Feb 21 03:10:45 UTC 2014


Can you assist with Dinis Cruz please?

I have attempted to resolve this privately but "Mr Lost in O2 World"
that Mark Curphey coined during HITB Amsterdam appears to be in denial
about http://blog.diniscruz.com/2012/10/why-do-others-think-that-im-hard-to.html

On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Christian Heinrich
<christian.heinrich at cmlh.id.au> wrote:
> Dinis,
> It is now well known by those reviewing the Google Hacking Inquiry
> that had you [Dinis] made me aware of
> http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2010-June/008481.html and
> the e-mail sent from the "unverified sources" i.e.
> https://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2010-July/008554.html at
> Hack In The Box Amsterdam then I could have resolved the root cause of
> the Google Hacking Inquiry as an ulterior motive of Chris Gatford of
> the inactive OWASP Chapter.
> In light of your inaccurate and defamatory claim
> http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2010-December/009369.html
> that was disputed by Andrew van der Stock and Justin Derry in 2010,
> Chris Gatford was forced to resign due to the continued inactivity of
> the OWASP Sydney Chapter three years later i.e.
> http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-sydney/2013-January/000177.html
> which Andrew van der Stock had also made you aware of this undisputed
> fact i.e. https://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-leaders/2010-July/003308.html
> back in 2010 as I had when you before your commence the inquiry which
> you deliberately elected to ignore.
> What I find most troubling is that Andrew van der Stock has made a
> number of open admissions that he has ongoing mental health issues
> i.e. https://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-leaders/2010-July/003309.html
> yet he, like everyone else (e.g. Microsoft, Mark Curphey, Yiannis, etc
> and I could name several more), can't understand the logic in your
> thinking Dinis e.g.
> http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-leaders/2012-April/007178.html
> In light of http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2010-July/008627.html
> can you please let me know how the inquiry benefited me while you
> supported  "unverified sources" i.e.
> https://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2010-August/003585.html,
> please let me know Dinis?
> Can you admit that you committed a transgression against
> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/About_OWASP#Code_of_Ethics please
> Dinis?
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Christian Heinrich <christian.heinrich at cmlh.id.au>
> Date: Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 5:43 PM
> Subject: Dinis Cruz - "Mental Illness" Comment
> To: Dinis Cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org>
> Dinis,
> You have alleged that I suffer "mental illness" in the public domain
> before so its appears odd in a social context that you would make your
> e-mail private now since you have no recollection your past
> indiscretions i.e.
> "Christian creates a massive confusion on his head, can't focus on the
> issues and complicates everything" as quoted from
> http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2010-August/008812.html
> "[Christian] is a mess" as quoted from
> http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2010-August/008813.html
> My negative behaviour is a direct result of the unfair, bias and poor
> treatment that I have received, i.e.
> http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2010-August/008773.html
> to correlate with the above examples.
> You suffer from
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57507160-83/aspergers-study-asks-are-hackers-cognitively-different/.
>  Mark Curphey and I concluded after you left our meeting at
> HTIBAMS2010 and this conclusion is still upheld.
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Dinis Cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:
>> Hi Christian , (just to you since this is a personal matter/comment)
>> As you can see by my last email, I still care about you and am trying to help here.
>> What I'm going to say next is very hard, and I hope you don't take it the wrong way (remember that I'm trying to help)
>> I think you might have some kind of mental disorder which affects your views and analysis (I'm not a doctor but something like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder)
>> The reality is that you are quite an intelligent and knowledgeable guy, but your analysis and logic has massive gaps, and sometimes you are just not rational.
>> I really think you should talk to a doctor and see what he/she thinks.
>> These days there is a lot that can be diagnosed and fixed, and maybe that is all you need
>> Hopefully this will help.
>> Good luck
>> Dinis
>> Dinis Cruz
>> Blog: http://diniscruz.blogspot.com
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/DinisCruz
>> Web: http://www.owasp.org/index.php/O2
>> On 6 June 2013 12:58, Christian Heinrich <christian.heinrich at cmlh.id.au> wrote:
>>> Dinis,
>>> Since I have proven to both Neil [1] and Dennis [2] that my recent
>>> correspondance in this matter is neither malicious or hearsay I would
>>> appreciate your opinion on this recent tweet from Arshan Dabirsiaghi
>>> of Aspect Security which states "He's [@cmlh is] just the loudest
>>> idiot, and the most wrong. Lots of conspiracy nuts in OWASP" that I
>>> have quoted from https://twitter.com/nahsra/status/342283245473382401
>>> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 3:49 AM, Dinis Cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> > Also Jeff deserves more respect than this
>>> I quoted the above from
>>> http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-topten/2013-May/001011.html and
>>> in respect the above do you consider that Arshan has shown me the same
>>> upmost respect, concern and courtesy that I have shown both Jeff and
>>> Dave?  If you agree that Arshan behaviour is intolerable then can you
>>> request that the OWASP Board add an additional agenda item to
>>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/June_10,_2013, i.e. this is in
>>> addition to the existing "OWASP Top Ten Code of Ethics violations and
>>> project handbook." agenda item, to address this matter on my behalf
>>> please?
>>> [1] http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-topten/2013-June/001093.html
>>> [2] http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-topten/2013-May/001023.html

Christian Heinrich


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