[Global_industry_committee] GIC meeting scheduled for Friday Mar-1, 17:00 UTC/GMT - follow-up

Jim Manico jim.manico at owasp.org
Mon Mar 11 08:57:21 UTC 2013


> And I hope that we will have your full support for this move.

100%, Tobias. I feel a great deal of positive progress happening here and will support these efforts any way I can.

Regards,
Jim



> 
> Best regards, Tobias
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/03/13 00:12, Jim Manico wrote:
>> My candid (and personal) thoughts on this matter.
>>
>> 1) I feel the full time staff should be driving operations of OWASP more than the board. 
>>
>> 2) This initiative (to end committees) was driven by our staff. This started before I became a board member and I felt it was prudent to support the full time staffs initiatives that had started before I joined the board.
>>
>> 3) We were supposed to transition the closing of committees over several months instead of ending them in one announcement. This was a mistake.
>>
>> 4) The GIC committee was fairly inactivate for the past few years. Key word: years. Other committees suffered the same problem. If I am wrong here, please say so. I think this situation really encouraged the GIC members to take additional action which is a great thing. This is the main reason the committees were closed.
>>
>> 5) Almost every committee has seen increased activity because of this move!
>>
>> I am very sorry for any hurt feelings. But I think the most important thing is *activity* and being in-service to the mission. I do not think we need committees to spread awareness which is the core of our mission. But we do NEED active volunteers like you!
>>
>> I am more than happy to discuss this in more detail if you like.
>>
>> I am VERY impressed with the direction the new "Industry Board" is moving in. But the criteria to success is active volunteerism in support of the OWASP mission.
>>
>> Fair?
>>
>> Aloha,
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi Colin,
>>>
>>> thanks a lot for your feedback and edit.
>>> 1. I agree.
>>> 2. Actually I don't care so much for the name as long as it works.
>>> (Sarah and Jim are against any "committee" name inside (obviously as we
>>> shut down the committees)
>>> I like the term "Global" as I want to keep the global and cross country
>>> aspect, regarding "Advisory", I don't care, and btw. am not totally
>>> happy with the term "board" (as it may lead to misinterpretation with
>>> our "OWASP Board". But as I didn't have any other good ideas, well.
>>> Maybe you have some good ideas for names?
>>>
>>> 3. Global Committee Chair meetings are dead, btw. already for a while. I
>>> believe to remember, one time I attended, and basically had a chat with
>>> Sarah and Helen.
>>> And yes, we should send someone (or myself) to the board meetings. I
>>> will attend the next board meeting on Mar-11 and hopefully we can have
>>> someone from our team attending. (though I personally believe, probably
>>> every 2nd month attendance should be sufficient.)
>>>
>>> Just my 2cents, Tobias
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/03/13 02:22, Colin Watson wrote:
>>>> Tobias
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for putting these pages up. It is very helpful to have
>>>> something solid to comment on.
>>>>
>>>> A few thoughts below for consideration.
>>>>
>>>> 1)  I edited the page which said members have to attend 66% of
>>>> meetings. Whilst attendance is important, I think leading,
>>>> contributing or otherwise supporting activities is much more
>>>> important. I'm pretty certain I would fail to attend 66% of meetings
>>>> despite being very willing. I was late on Friday and thus missed it,
>>>> and the next one is on a UK public holiday so its unlikely I can make
>>>> that either.
>>>>
>>>> 2)  Are we definitely going the "Global" and "Advisory" in the title?
>>>>
>>>> 3)  Regarding governance, does the chair need to "attend or nominate"
>>>> someone to OWASP Board and Global Committee Chair meetings? Virtual
>>>> attendance too? Does the latter group exist any longer?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Colin
>>>>
>>>> On 3 March 2013 11:21, Tobias <tobias.gondrom at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> - also added Jim on cc to join the conversation and review the pages -
>>>>>
>>>>> follow-up of our GIC call on Mar-1, even though with some technical problems
>>>>> for several people dialing in (go2meeting seems to have been blocked by some
>>>>> corporate firewalls). My apologies for that trouble. I will try to find an
>>>>> alternative dial-in conference solution for future meetings. And just fyi a
>>>>> link to a short meeting minutes page
>>>>> (https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Industry:_Minutes_2013-03-01)
>>>>>
>>>>> Going forward, I prepared the following Wiki pages for your consideration
>>>>> and feedback and as basis for our discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please give your feedback ASAP as we need to submit this to the board until
>>>>> Mar-8 for them to nod on it on Mar-11 and the GIAB to be ready by Mar-31.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here the pages in Wiki. Please send comments or make changes directly to the
>>>>> documents.
>>>>>
>>>>> - https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Global_Industry_Advisory_Board
>>>>> (the main page, with mission and goals, links to meeting minutes, etc.)
>>>>>
>>>>> - https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Global_Industry_Advisory_Board_Governance
>>>>> (the charter and how to select members and remove them)
>>>>>
>>>>> - https://www.owasp.org/index.php/GIAB_nominated_candidates
>>>>> (I took part of the nomination document of the old committes, and made it
>>>>> shorter and removed all this "becoming a member be a great honor" stuff and
>>>>> replaced it with serving our community.)
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Global_Industry_Advisory_Board_Joining_Form_-_Template
>>>>> (to be clear: I would not ask everybody who already had endorsements from
>>>>> the GIC, to go through this process again; but I will link to the
>>>>> endorsement pages from the GIC for this purpose.)
>>>>>
>>>>> - And for all current GIC members: Please also email me or our mailing-list
>>>>> a quick message whether you want to participate in the future GIAB.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know what you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best and looking forward to hearing from you!
>>>>>
>>>>> Tobias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/03/13 02:04, Tobias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> I like to check back with you. As I received some reports from people having
>>>>> technical problems joining the call. If you had such a problem, could you
>>>>> please send me a quick email, so I know in the future and will use a
>>>>> different dial-in tool?
>>>>>
>>>>> We had on this call only Mauro, Alexander, Sarah and myself. :-(
>>>>> (below the Doodle sign-up)
>>>>>
>>>>> Alexander and Mauro provided good feedback on the future of the GIC tasks,
>>>>> and they support the notion to move to the GIAB approach.
>>>>> We discussed some of the details.
>>>>> I will prepare a short charter until Sunday (evening HK time, morning US
>>>>> time) and will really need your input on that either before if you have a
>>>>> good idea, or ASAP after that, as we have to put this to the board before
>>>>> Mar-8!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards, Tobias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/03/13 01:08, Tobias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> in case you are trouble connecting, please try the go2meeting.
>>>>> That works. Talk to you in a bit.
>>>>> Best regards, Tobias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27/02/13 00:38, Tobias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks a lot for your feedback on the scheduling of our next call on the
>>>>> future of the GIC and my apologies for the short notice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Based on that information, let's schedule our call for Friday March-1, 17:00
>>>>> UK time (GMT+00:00)
>>>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20130301T17&p1=136&ah=1
>>>>>
>>>>> Agenda topics for the Global Industry Committee meeting:
>>>>> - Future of GIC
>>>>> - update of CISO Guide
>>>>> - update of CISO Survey
>>>>> - Industry Table at AppSec APAC
>>>>> - industry bodies contacts?
>>>>> - ...?
>>>>>
>>>>> (and the link to the GIC page:
>>>>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Global_Industry_Committee)
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know if you can not attend this call.
>>>>>
>>>>> Access to the GIC meeting is via Go2Meeting.
>>>>> (So far there is only Audio, no need for slides at this point.)
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.  Please join my meeting.
>>>>> https://www3.gotomeeting.com/join/910785446
>>>>> 2.  Use your microphone and speakers (VoIP) - a headset is recommended.  Or,
>>>>> call in using your telephone.
>>>>> Dial +1 (213) 493-0606
>>>>> (more dial-in numbers are at the bottom of the email)
>>>>>
>>>>> Access Code: 910-785-446
>>>>> Audio PIN: Shown after joining the meeting
>>>>> Meeting ID: 910-785-446
>>>>> Not at your computer? Click the link to join this meeting from your iPhone®,
>>>>> iPad® or Android® device via the GoToMeeting app.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards and looking forward to talking with you on Friday.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers, Tobias
>>>>> (GIC chair)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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