[Global_industry_committee] [Owasp-board] GIC Chair

Joe bernik at gmail.com
Wed Feb 16 09:52:14 EST 2011


Mark,

I would like to adopt a similar set of guidelines for the
Industry committee.

Joe

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Mark Bristow <mark.bristow at owasp.org>wrote:

> Personally I like the plan, however, we really need to settle down and come
> up with common rules for committee governance to include voting rules, chair
> elections et all.  The Conferences Committee passed our own governance last
> year (
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Global_Conferences_Committee_Governance)
> that we can use as a template to start from.  This might be a perfect first
> topic for the new chairs mailing list.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> Mark,
>>
>> The connections committee is very willing to lend communications support
>> to all other committees. This includes industry. I'm on the Industry
>> email list and will be looking to see how we at "connections" can help.
>>
>> I think that splitting up these 2 committees is likely a bad idea right
>> now - since we need to support communications for non-industry needs as
>> well. We are also a very small committee currently.
>>
>> I am the current chair of the connections committee, and with Justin
>> Clarke that makes only 2 official members total. Justin and I *were*
>> officially elected to this committee following the official process some
>> time ago
>>
>> We have 2 other members applying for this committee (Doug Wilson and
>> Jerry Hoff). Once the committee reaches 4 members, we will vote on the
>> chair position again.
>>
>> If any of this is not appropriate, please let me know. Is there a better
>> process I should follow? I'm all ears.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > As a bystander, I am incredibly confused by all of this.  It sounds like
>> Jim
>> > no longer wants to collapse the committees, but the pages have been
>> updated,
>> > it's not clear what the missions would be as a joint committee, who the
>> new
>> > chairs are (or who the chair of the GIC was when we started), if this
>> has
>> > been passed by the board or the membership.
>> >
>> > Basically I'm really confused.  If i'm the only one, I'll be quiet now.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Global_Committee_Pages
>> >>
>> >> Now the hard work starts ;)  define a budget, outline milestones
>> empower
>> >> its public members (and those that can't be listed on the website)
>> >>
>> >> Note Sara Baso is a 1099 resource for this important committee.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Lorna Alamri <lorna.alamri at owasp.org
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Works for me. I get the best of both. I never wanted to quit
>> Connections
>> >>> but rather felt with hosting AppSecUSA it made more sense for me to be
>> a
>> >>> part of Industry as I reached out to the verticals in regards to
>> AppSecUSA.
>> >>> Lorna
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Colin Watson <colin.watson at owasp.org
>> >wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Sorry if I missed something at 4pm EST?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> But I don't have any objection to this.  Of course we should consider
>> >>>> Lorna's thoughts in this, but maybe the two committees are more
>> >>>> aligned now in any case.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Note: we have 4 or 5 potential new GIC members coming on board
>> shortly
>> >>>> - I need to check their applications' status, but one potential issue
>> >>>> is solved by this - Jerry Hoff seemed to want to be on both
>> >>>> committees.  He might get his wish.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Colin
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 14 February 2011 21:01, Justin Clarke <justin.clarke at owasp.org>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> Its worth noting that the Connections Committee currently only has
>> one
>> >>>>> real mission - PR/Press contact. If we see this as a role within the
>> >>>>> Industry committee remit I don't have objections (in fact it regains
>> >>>>> us Lorna), but we need to keep it as a focus as OWASP has
>> >>>>> traditionally been bad about coordinating efforts in the area.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Sent from a mobile device
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 14 Feb 2011, at 19:58, Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I just hung up (yes I use the phone/skype more than emails for
>> OWASP)
>> >>>> with the Global Connections Committee (sounds so official) but after
>> talking
>> >>>> to Jim Manico (the connections chair) we have another selfless effort
>> for
>> >>>> the good of OWASP and recommendation for consideration at the 4pm EST
>> call
>> >>>> today
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Merge the connections committee into the industry committee.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Step#1 look at the list:
>> >>>> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Global_Committee_Pages  <-- no really
>> its
>> >>>> updated.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Step#2 we merge Connections Members into Industry Committee
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Step #3 we eliminate the connections committee on the wiki (quick
>> >>>> edit) that has a fuzzy mission (worked great for the Summit)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Step #4 we have two NEW members passion filled to help the outreach
>> >>>> and progress that bring business and relationships.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Please add this to the agenda at the 4pm EST call 800.851.3547
>> >>>> x3738751
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> As one of the topics is a GIC chair, then the members of the
>> committee
>> >>>> can vote in the GIC Chair.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Feb 14, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Rex Booth wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I think the latter structure is what's needed in order to maximize
>> >>>> outreach potential.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> That said, I don't think that structure has an impact on how the
>> >>>> chair is chosen.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 2/14/2011 11:32 AM, Eoin wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> There seems to be interest in the position which is great as I
>> keep
>> >>>> saying "Industry is where OWASP can gain traction".
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> The individuals whom have expressed interest in the chair role
>> are
>> >>>> David Campbell (I may stand corrected here), Rex Booth and Joe
>> Bernik.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> We have two options in terms of structure as I believe the
>> committee
>> >>>> once empowered by new OWASP bylaws may grow rather large.
>> >>>>>>>> We discussed this in Portugal on Tuesday.....
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Option 1: Vote for a new chair, democratic and transparent.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Option 2: Iinstall a chair with overarching responsibility of
>> >>>> cross-committee and board communication but also form industry
>> vertical
>> >>>> committees represented by individuals from industry: Finance/Banking,
>> >>>> Energy, Health, Gov, Transport? etc
>> >>>>>>>> The vertical reps will need to actually be working in these
>> >>>> industries but also understand the issues facing their own area of
>> >>>> expertise.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Eoin Keary
>> >>>>>>>> OWASP Global Board Member
>> >>>>>>>> OWASP Code Review Guide Lead Author
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my i-Transmogrifier
>> >>>>>>>> http://asg.ie/
>> >>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/EoinKeary
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Lorna Alamri
>> >>> OWASP Global Industry Committee
>> >>>
>> >>> OWASP MSP: Host to OWASP AppSec USA 2011
>> >>> September 20-23 Training, Talks, CTF, and Showroom
>> >>> www.appsecusa.org
>> >>> @appsecusa, @owaspmsp @OWASPSummit
>> >>>  Dir: 651-338-0243
>> >>> skype: lorna.alamri
>> >>> lorna.alamri at owasp.org
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
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>
>
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> Mark Bristow
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>
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